Discord Mafia - ma10-chat

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ForeverBel pinned a message to this channel. 10/02/2021 5:33 PM

Heya

17:36

First player coming at you live from Mafia Discord

17:36

Lets leave the autographs for later

Well here we go

what's up folks

IM JAILOR TP LO

should we announce our ranks? this is my first rodeo so i wanna make sure i do this shit right.

are you despair or hope

hope.

Oh well im despair looks like we weren't meant to be

should you be telling me that lol

17:39

what if someone from hope kills you?

They WOULDN'T dare

17:40

Im like so lovable

17:40

and trustworthy

i still have no idea what's going on, lol.

We're just chatting for now

17:42

we could vote

17:42

OMG

17:42

do you wanna vote eachother and then unvote

17:42

for the fun

i need an adult

I voted for you already

I'M AFRAID

17:43

i'm innocent TT.TT

ARE YOU REALLY

listen i can't anime cry any harder ok

YKNOW I HAVE TRUST ISSUES IF YOU'RE LYING TO ME RN ILL KILL YOU

17:44

literally me rn

Good that's what liars should be doing.

17:44

anyways we're bffs so its fine

uh what's the age limit in here? is everyone 18+?

bestie

17:44

Nope

17:45

If you're asking if you can swear i think you can

musicalfoxes

uh what's the age limit in here? is everyone 18+?

The age limit is 13+ which is discord ToS; and I think we have a range of ages

ha, okay.

say the f word

17:47

Just realized how blessed you are though...

17:47

Since your new here your first ever convo in game has been with moi

17:47

so lucky

hmm, i too am overly arrogant

17:48

maybe we WILL be besties

17:48

But I'm not arrogant i was just stating facts

17:48

DID YOU JUST ACCUSE ME OF BEING ARROGANT BESTIE?

17:48

LIAR

17:48

DESPAIR DETECTED

since you're despair, can't i just rally the other not despairs to vote you out?

Why would you vote me out omg

17:49

im like

17:49

despair but not

because i love you but you're a threat to me so im gonna have to visit you at the graveyard

17:49

❤️

OMG THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT A DESPAIR WOULD SAY

17:49

guys musical just claimed despair

wow all caps huh. awful sus. i heard all caps is a despair trait, is that true

i saw it with my own eyes (very shocking)

SAD

AMONG US

17:50

Anyways guys just wanted to put this out here

17:51

all investigative roles should not bother checking me since im innocent 100%

17:51

checking me will waste your night

17:51

don't do it okay

17:51

Anyways since now im confirmed hope

17:52

I should be the leader

ok i gotta look at the roles

Do you guys agree?

is there like a joker whos trying to get themselves killed?

"Yes we agree!"

because

17:52

i may have a suggestion

if you're about to accuse me as jesty bestie you're wrong

17:53

cuz im despair

17:53

hope

17:53

i mean uh

17:53

yeah

17:53

im yes

hmm.

17:53

s u s

God im gonna have so much fun

i have so many suspicions about you, you've rolled right back to innocent so good job bestie

Now then

17:53

Musical you claimed hope yeeees?

unless you get killed night one

17:53

that would be

17:54

u n f o r t u n a t e

Buuuuuuuuut

17:54

What kind of hope are youuuuuuu

17:54

will you tell meeeeeeee

u first

17:54

im shy

Im despair killing

17:54

wait no omg

17:54

didn't mean to confess srry

h m m

im hope not killing

im starting to think this guy is a PHONY

17:55

A BIG PHONY

You're the one with a vote against you!

17:55

the people have spoken you're gonna get lynched musical!!!

>:[

17:55

i have NEVER

17:55

i require to speak to a manager

17:55

this insect is crawling on my KEDS

Hi!Im the manager

‍♂️

noOOooOooO

17:59

Yknow musi this truly is a bonding experience for us

17:59

Trapped in a killing game and all

so the question is are you a role that would be benefitted by confusing us, or are you just a psychopath who just likes making people guess

17:59

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Uhm...

17:59

uh

what happens if we try to kill each other at night

I PLEAD THE FIFTH

like both

I would never kill you

does neither die?

17:59

are there strength stats?

Oh

i don't believe you, youre too beautiful to tell the truth

wait lemme explain how that works

18:00

so there's different stats

18:00

basic,powerful,invincible defense basic,powerful,unstoppable attack

18:01

Or yknow no attack and no defense is also possible

musicalfoxes

i don't believe you, youre too beautiful to tell the truth

18:01

So basically

18:01

lets say we have no defense and basi attacks

18:01

we'd just kill eachother

18:01

the end

owo wtf is happening

Omg hewwo

18:01

new person

something wonderful?

18:02

hi xir

18:02

xaam

18:02

flimflam

MIH

new person

uh

18:02

hey?

Kokichis did you just claim despair

18:02

omg

18:02

not the evil claiming day 1

18:02

We shoupd lynch you now omg

OH EM GEE ECKS DEE HOW FUNNY BESTIE I JUST CLAIMED DESPAIR #GASLIGHT #GATEKEEP #GIRLBOSS ISN’T THAT RIGHT YOU GO SISTER

18:03

ok that’s enough cringe for one day

Exactly

lolllll

18:03

we mightve girlbossed too close to the sun

GUYS WAIT OMG

that will haunt me till my dying day

game theory

smh you voted me

18:03

this is transphobia

so if kokichi thinks im cringe he'll defenetly want to kill me so if i die n1 lynch kokichi guys

i know im entering a trap (edited)

MIH

so if kokichi thinks im cringe he'll defenetly want to kill me so if i die n1 lynch kokichi guys

…bruh

but idc

i was talking about myself

MUSICAL WHY

you'll pay for your treachery

how dare you

JACUSE

musical our friendship was the strongest bond in this server.

18:04

you broke it

18:04

how DARE YOU

18:05

YOU MONSTER

>5:42 >6:03 i simply return your barb, heathen

BUT I CHANGED IT

18:05

Vote someone else for the fun of it omg

18:05

Vote kokichi lets scare him

you changed it?

yeah you can see i voted kokichi after

you did not you coal shaped minx, it is still there, to read in plain spanglish

18:06

oh you can only vote once

MIH

Vote kokichi lets scare him

why the fuck would i be scared

18:06

if i’m dead that means i dont have to worry about prods

Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi)

why the fuck would i be scared

BOO

Okaaaay what the fuck happened lmao

i voted zach cause he was typing so SUS

18:07

his typing VIBES were OFF

WHY AM I HE CURRENT LYNCH OMG

Tf

Reb

Tf

i want to die

18:07

take this knife

18:07

stab me

check again bestie i would never do that to u

i will finally be free

DON'T LYNCH ME I HAVE A WIFE AND TWO KIDS

i couldnt drag my lethargic little pinky to vote you off bestie

musicalfoxes

his typing VIBES were OFF

Bitch I dont have any sus way of typing I dont do shit

MIH

DON'T LYNCH ME I HAVE A WIFE AND TWO KIDS

i’ll lynch you if i damn well please

18:07

fuck your wife

18:07

and your two kids

Reb

Bitch I dont have any sus way of typing I dont do shit

i

i’ll murder them all

Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi)

stab me

No

musicalfoxes

i

disagree

HOW DARE YOU KOKICHI YOU DESPAIR LOSER

No stabbing in the halls

Reb

No

i can’t believe this shit

my mortal enemy!!!

i ask for death kindly and you refuse to grant it to me

18:08

now i’ll just stab myself

18:08

look what you’ve done

18:08

yknow, just because of your rudeness

baaaaabe, i thought i was your mortal enemy

i’ll stab you, your family, and myself

18:08

all at once

musicalfoxes

disagree

Whatever lmao, its d1 anyways

just watch me

Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi)

i’ll stab you, your family, and myself

You aint got the stones

Reb

Whatever lmao, its d1 anyways

i'm jk. i'm sorry, i was infected by chaos from mih

musicalfoxes

i'm jk. i'm sorry, i was infected by chaos from mih

That doesnt even make sense

chaos wdym

18:09

guys im litterally so chill

Reb

That doesnt even make sense

just...read one message mih has typed and you will descend into madness

18:09

i'm weak

18:09

ive got a pliable mind

Omg

u must protecc me im like the dodo, too stupid to live but useful somehow

musicalfoxes

just...read one message mih has typed and you will descend into madness

He's a crackhead, whatd you expect

Reb

He's a crackhead, whatd you expect

i didnt know TT.TT

18:10

no one gave me the mih warning

Thought it was obvious

musical is my underling guys

18:11

you can't say no btw

damn, day 1 minion. how could this happen to meeeeee

you already signed the contract

18:12

can't wait for the others to arrive and be like "what the fuck just happened here"

lol

hehehe

18:12

Anyways does anyone have any reads

18:12

Kokichi said he wanted to die??!?!?!Jester claim?

18:12

jester play guys

18:13

That vote was fin

18:13

fun

18:14

too bad you won't be able to vote me again cuz its like illegal now

18:14

vote imunity

thats ok, you cant vote dead people anyway

Omg wait i already died?!?!?!?!

18:16

Day 1 death omg

18:16

#privilege

Damn

Guys i died my role allows me to still talk to you

18:21

isn't this amazing

Damn

its time to wait for the others to arrive

18:33

so i can terrorize them too

18:33

that's way it's fair for everyone

“Maybe we Should get together in this City, that way, we can actually sense the Malious souls from the Truly pure…”

wait we're doing rp.

18:49

?

18:50

or are you just being extra quirky special about this

Damn

(RP is optional, you can if you want to)

(I AM RPING)

18:50

(because THIS IS DANGANRONPA)

(Okay ill rp

)

18:52

"Hey y'all this is Nicki Minaj

"

18:53

"Now whaz in the hell is this about figurin out which side will win or whatevah"

(….Is that supposed to be your actual character or are you making fun of me…)

(I didn't really prepare one plus who wouldn't want nicki minaj in a killing game so im gonna be nicki minaj the queen of rap)

(I was roleplaying more my Role…Which was a canonical Danganronpa Character…)

18:57

(Which is why my name is Leaf. Its a Codename for the character since last time I used the character name I died.)

18:59

(Did you get a charcter?)

(We I did yeah but i i thought we wouldn't rp unless we all kinda agree to do it so I didn't think of a name and such but i don't mind if we rp)

(Damn

Nicki Minaj is not a danganronpa character

19:03

And we totally should rp

19:04

I need to find my ship out there if they are around

Meowy

Nicki Minaj is not a danganronpa character

WHAT?!?!?!

19:04

3 votes for rp people

19:05

Oh wait actually

19:05

we all get a description of our character

(I really wanna know who everyone is…)

so even people who haven't played this should know what their character is

19:05

Wait

19:05

yeah

19:05

I can tell y'all my character

(Im hiding it for now until we do Standard Meetup or So. Yknow. How normal Charqcter interaction works)

19:06

(Wheres The main character when you need em?!)

wait we have a problem

19:07

If we all act as our characters we'd instantly know who's who if we played the games already

19:08

which would also mean we'd figure out the roles

It might be too easy though as we know who represents despair

19:08

Yeah exactly

I wouldn't mind since yknow we can get the evils to out themselves

19:08

but if one of the evils also played dr

19:08

they'll know exactly who's probably who

19:09

I don't role-playing but like silky did we should all just go under aliases or something

19:09

and try to not be obvious about it

No :< I like the role playing

Well yeah im saying we can roleplay

19:11

but we shouldn't be obvious about who we are

the evils do have fake characters they can claim, to ensure it wouldnt be obvious just by claiming name :)

(Lyings a Thing.)

oh

(Also Again, I havent said my character~)

19:12

(Or, maybe Forever rigged it so that Anyone is filled with dispair.)

Since they have fake ones then obviously we're looking for

19:14

Junko,Mukuro,Nagito,Kokichi uh idk

19:14

Izuru?

19:14

characters like thay

I know who kokichi is

who

We should just vote him

19:14

Kokichi…

OMG

19:14

I KNEW IT

19:15

i told you guys we should vote kokichi

Right? He changed his name to avoid suspicion but we saw through it

great lynch guys we're doing great

19:16

Anyways back on the rp thing

“So where is everyone currently?”

im completely lost idk what's happening

@ForeverBel idk if you are allowed to say this but have the good roles been chosen based on the character or not?For example kirigiri ti and so on just like the despairs or were they randomized

19:18

They probably weren't randomized but i wanted to ask anyway

I can tell you the answer is no. Otherwise I’d be pretty overpowered

Oh

19:18

reaaally now

19:18

why is that

Because

Damn

Because.

Because I like my character

Damn.

Uhm so what?

Idk

Well here's ill claim a character

19:25

I'm Angie

Damn

Can't really rp Angie without giving it away easily

19:25

so might as well come out with it

Hm Angie is hope

19:26

I think

You could just not rp it

If Angie wasn't hope i wouldn't even bother saying it

19:27

But i just can't rp Angie in secret cuz of how obvious it'll be

19:27

any mention of a god would give it away

Ok now sylvie who are you

No wait we shouldn't claim cuz like is said its easy to figure out they are

19:30

Angie is just normal citizen so i don't really mind claiming

19:31

But if all of the citizens claim it'll narrow down the list of important people

So are you just a normal citizen?

Yep

19:32

I have no abilities i just need to eliminate despair

19:33

So yeah investigative roles shouldn't bother checking me

19:34

don't waste your nights on little ol me

Yay what a coincidence me too! Besties again?

Hmmmmm

Normal citizens unite!

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

19:34

Maybe we'll be besties

19:35

ill tell you on Day 2

19:35

if we both live

I sure hope so. Why bother killing citizens when they can get a power role

Not you making them think we're important

So… am I reading this right though 3 maf total?

(I have a role)

Damn

Oh oh Sylvie has a role

A… power role?

Yeah sylvie is actually the impostor from among us

(I mean, If you ask my character shit, you can probably figure out who they are

We don't need to know for now we need to keep you a secret!!!

19:40

if you're important and we also know your character then you'll be targeted

Meowy

So… am I reading this right though 3 maf total?

Also yeah im also thinking 3 despair and 10 hope

19:43

ig 4 would be possible but i doubt it

wait are we roleplaying

Imo we should do it

20:08

or whoever wants to roleplay they can

20:12

in the end we can just act like we're togheter with some dr characters

(Im rping lol. Im just waiting on a Response. Noone told their Location to My character)

Well that was quite the read

Going to have to read this again to hopefully understand things better, wish me luck.

If there is a Jester role, I don't think someone would make it obvious. If they are it's possible the person is a bad role trying to protect themselves from a lynch.

Don’t think jester is rollable but could be wrong

I need to check again, just brought it up because people were talking about it

Gamecube

Well that was quite the read

It was indeed. I didn't even go through all of it. lol. Maybe I'll be sheeping votes for the rest of the game lol.

Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi)

wait are we roleplaying

No, not me at least.

Well hello

knocks down the table and takes cover. "Fire in the hole!"

lol

Seriously?

05:24

I mean

05:25

S e r i o u s l y ?

05:25

Another vote on me cuz im quirky

05:28

Do you genuinely believe I'd be drawing that much attention to myself if i was evil

05:28

No cuz like honestly this is gatekeeping the quirky

05:28

HOW DARE YOU VOTE ME

05:29

Im the only one who even claimed

05:29

is there any proof contradicting my claim?

05:29

NOPE

05:30

Yknow what if you're gonna vote me might as well return the favor no?

05:36

"Is this a jester play?!?!?

" MY LEFT ASS CHEEK

05:36

Im like totally inno

05:37

why would i even bother drawing the attention im clearly gonna get cheked tonight anyway cuz nobody trusts me

05:38

If you really wanna waste your nigths and votes on me then go ahead but its gonna be absolutely pointless anyway

05:43

Honestly this is so #misleading

05:44

Directing a vote on the most "different

" omg

05:45

If you wanna lynch me then you better have some evidence backing you up

05:47

I was clearly just dooing a funny with my best friend and partner in quirky,Musical.

05:47

That is all

05:49

No cuz like are we gonna have the is Mih jest or evil talk EVERY game now¿

05:49

If so u might as well get dressed up for the occasion

05:50

https://tenor.com/view/strahmester-jester-gif-22902798

05:50

Is this outfit okay?!?!?!

❤️

MIH

all investigative roles should not bother checking me since im innocent 100%

This is definitely not smth an evil would say

MIH

I would never kill you

But this...

05:53

Are u trying to implement that u are a role with a killing ability but won't kill musical

I've confessed bestie

05:53

im citizen

05:53

i was just joking about the killing

Right now Imma keep my vote

05:54

Whatever loser

05:54

Like I've said

MIH

HOW DARE YOU VOTE ME

Also ur reactions didn't quite like that

Im clearly exaggerating

Originally this was a meme vote but whatever

Not the 1 vote on me!!!

05:55

WDYM NOW ITS SERIOUS

05:56

Uhm okay detective sherlock loser

05:57

I just wanted to be a nice citizen and tell y'all to not waste your abilty checking me so you can find the evils easily

05:57

If im that suspicious i don't mind being cheked later for confirmation but for now we should be focusing on finding the despair asap

Like I said that is not something an evil would say

I clearly have the innocence to show for it

Fire

Like I said that is not something an evil would say

It's like provoking the cops to check you...

05:58

But AGAIN it could be a strategy

05:58

So idk

Im litterally gonna become a town killing at this point

05:59

Im litterally 100% town

05:59

there has been no claim someone else is angie so my character also checks out

06:00

Whatever

06:00

The others will see the truth and won't vote for me!!!

06:00

They'll see the light!

ForeverBel

the evils do have fake characters they can claim, to ensure it wouldnt be obvious just by claiming name :)

This

The evils probably got seperate characters as well

06:02

why would they be given the same ones as us

06:02

we'd figure out the despairs immediately

06:03

Okay so since fire is pushing me and all lets kill someone else idk you guys can choose i just don't wanna be cheked and Fire dies i probably will be

06:03

Wait omg didn't mean to post this here

06:03

Sorry got the despair and main chat confused

06:09

Zilch why the vote on Cockichi

06:10

Care to share

I didn't like his reaction when you first voted him.

Oh

06:11

Ig that makes sense yeah

They were acting like they didn't care even if they die.

I did find it a bit odd but im keeping my vote for now until i have a more concrete read

Trying to look like they've got a boring uninteresting vanilla town role or something

Omg not you reading them people you go Zilch

By throwing a tantrum.

Hehe

And he was complaining about prods on day 1

MIH

I did find it a bit odd but im keeping my vote for now until i have a more concrete read

I never said that this is my final vote for day 1

06:12

Let's see where it goes.

Yeah no its fine

06:13

SOMEONE ELSE ahem ahem DID THE SAME THING

06:13

and voted

Who?

Fire voted me

Well, the way I see it, she was just trying to stir the pot.

Honestly!!!

06:14

Zilch you just became my fav

Also, I find your honeyed and cajoling tones sus. lol jk jk.

MIH

Zilch you just became my fav

You're already my fav comerade

Also im like the only one who has genuinely claimed a role so uh yeah

06:16

#Protectthecitizens!!!

What role have you claimed again?

06:17

Angie?

Im Angie and my role is citizen

You mean Vanilla Town?

Yeah basically

06:17

i have no abilities

I see I see

all i can do is vote and talk so that's what imma do

06:18

that's why i also told everyone to not bother checking until later if i even live

Yeah, you've been playing your role very sincerely so far I must say. (edited)

06:18

Talking and talking

06:18

jk

That's what i do

So, how many Vanilla Townies are possible in C9++?

I haven't read the rolelist properly

06:20

im just gonna asumme atleast 2 or 3

06:20

because meowy also technically said he's citizen although idk about that

Yeah, I liked how they said, "what a coincidence! I'm a citizen too!!"

06:22

But I believe they are Town, at least for now.

Meowy

I can tell you the answer is no. Otherwise I’d be pretty overpowered

Because of this

Yeah we'll see

why… have i been voted?

07:52

ok

karcin

Trying to look like they've got a boring uninteresting vanilla town role or something

Apparently ur too townie...

me? i’m too fucking townie?

07:54

wow

07:55

that’s the first time i’ve been called tttbt

07:55

i mean i’ve called others twtbw

07:55

and occasionally tttbt

07:55

but me, tttbt? usually i’m just scum lol

karcin

Trying to look like they've got a boring uninteresting vanilla town role or something

i do tho. i suffer in pain

karcin

By throwing a tantrum.

i was going to respond :thonk: but this server doesn’t have that emote which is sad

karcin

And he was complaining about prods on day 1

i got school, man. i get prodded all the time in the mafia games i like to play

07:57

Okay so everything went from nothing to everything in d1

not really

07:58

i think?

07:58

idk confusion

07:58

welcome to hell, zach. enjoy your stay

cheers mate

let’s smoke weed and die inside B)

07:58

just like real life1

Lmao

*life!

I see

i am not roleplaying this game btw

07:59

i love this character but i cannot act like them

07:59

for the life of me

Damn

08:00

Im not roleplaying cuz i wouldnt be able to contribute much to begin with

fair

08:00

im rping in quack’s upick because it’s funny

I see lmao

…and it also accurately conveys the amount of information i know about the game

Like nothing

08:01

i think

…and my role is bastard as fuck so even if i tried to tell you what it did

08:01

i wouldnt be able to

Damn

some of my passives don’t even have non-flavor description

08:01

*descriptions

08:01

same with my abilities

Some of your passives?

08:07

That means u can't be Vanilla town

Fire

Some of your passives?

i’m talking about another game

08:07

idiot

08:07

:/

Damn

i’m literally just a cit in this game

08:08

there are a fuckton of prs

08:08

and i end up as a cit

Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi)

i’m talking about another game

Noted

how could this happen to me

Damn.

eh probably because i got a stonks role in another game

08:08

the cycle of luck repeats indefinitely

Damn

anyway seeya, i have checks notes a dnd character to make

Nice

NOOO I DON'T WANNA BE THE CURRENT LYNCH

08:19

I got you bestie

Thank you meowy ATLEAST SOMEONE HERE LIKES ME

❤️

Damn

“Noone seems to be revealing their locations…So I guess I have to fine everyone here and beat some sense into them!”

Hm the only character advocating for violence I can think of is fuyuhiko

Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi)

that’s the first time i’ve been called tttbt

What does tttbt stand for?

too townie to be town afaik

too towny to be true? (edited)

09:06

okay

it’s too townie to be town

09:26

as twtbw is too wolfy to be wolf

09:26

iirc

I see

09:28

There's another vote on you btw.

So we already have 3 town claims?

ah ok

10:08

well it’s ok if i get lynched nonetheless

10:08

a cit loss isn’t that huge

Why are you being targeted?

Coz he is too towny

10:10

Apparently

I think it would be worth discussing what roles are possible for this game. Give everyone a clear picture.

#ma10-info it has all the roles in form of a wiki

Yeah I'm aware

Fire

Coz he is too towny

No, they're not too towny. They haven't done anything towny yet and so hasn't anyone else as it's just day 1. I just found their reactions a bit scummy.

karcin

No, they're not too towny. They haven't done anything towny yet and so hasn't anyone else as it's just day 1. I just found their reactions a bit scummy.

Oh...

How many town are there in a game of 13? Someone mentioned 3 earlier is that right?

U had said their role might be Vanilla town so I thought u were implementing that they r too towny

They did soft vanilla

Makes sense

Gamecube

How many town are there in a game of 13? Someone mentioned 3 earlier is that right?

2-5 I'd assume. But there can be more.

Alright thanks I'll keep that in mind

Yeah maybe ur right..Imma change my vote

There's simple majority, right?

Yeah usually there is

10:24

The game wouldn't work otherwise

I mean, there could be 2/3 majority.

Aside from Mafia and Town, the only third party in this game is serial killer

Gotta wait till day 2 to find out

I've never played a game with serial killer before. From what I know they can kill someone each night and if they are the last one standing they win.

Yeah but we don't have to worry about sk rn

10:59

there's too little of us for there to be sk and maf

Oh yeah my vote on kokichi isn’t completely random. Given it’s d1 but his response to vote is unnatural, and attempt on distraction (bringing up another game) is an extra effort to look towny

The responses were sporadic and weird I'll agree with that

And it’s the best gut read I have so

hey all hello

MIH

there's too little of us for there to be sk and maf

oh?

MIH

Yeah but we don't have to worry about sk rn

Pretty sure whether or not the serial killer exists was random chance. We are 13 players which is the max, so there could be a serial killer. I don't think we should prioritize looking for it though.

yea looking at the setup it’s a 50% chance or so

11:11

but like

11:11

does anyone else feel like that was a slip from mih

11:12

“too little of us”

11:13

feels like they have some info that we townies don’t

Not really sure what they meant from that either.

karcin

No, they're not too towny. They haven't done anything towny yet and so hasn't anyone else as it's just day 1. I just found their reactions a bit scummy.

it's d1 and i usually do this, what

11:29

pffft ok boomer

Rawry

does anyone else feel like that was a slip from mih

I was just making an assumption queen no need too get worked up

11:40

if you think about it

11:40

wouldn't it be unfair ?

11:40

9 townies,3 maf and 1 sk

11:41

I mean ig it's possible but im just gonna assume it isn't for now

11:41

we'll find out tmr if you get stabbed or not

There could be just 2 mafia and a serial killer.

thats more reasonable i suppose

Plus like I'd ever even slip

12:01

Im like the most awsome cool gamer ever

Not y'all hanging kokichi

MIH

9 townies,3 maf and 1 sk

then it’s even more odd that you’d say “too little of us”

Wdym

12:44

uf there's two deaths per night

12:44

give or take

too little implies you’re a minority lol

We'd die in like 4 nights max

12:44

not to mention if jailor messes up an exe

12:44

or tk does a funny

12:45

If you really don't believe me then how about you check me if you can

why are you so eager to get yourself checked

12:47

are you gf?

12:48

and is kokichi your scum buddy lol

12:48

you don’t have a vote on them

12:50

or you could be an investigation immune sk sus

MIH

not to mention if jailor messes up an exe

Jailer isn't in this game unless it's under a different name

Rlly?I haven't gotten to read the whole role list so i just assumed there was one

Well I just control F to see if it was anywhere

12:57

No mention of it

There is a roleblocker potentially

Rawry

why are you so eager to get yourself checked

Im not that's why I've said my role and my character and asked not be cheked since it would be a waste,I was saying that if you really think im scum mafia evil omg

then go ahead and find out somehow

Rawry

you don’t have a vote on them

Because i haven't decided if i agree with the read on kokichi or not,im still thinking about it

Rawry

or you could be an investigation immune sk sus

Totally yeah

12:59

And like I've said why would even talk this much in the first place its ridiculous

12:59

The more you talk the more you risk slipping

I'm more wary of you than Kokichi as it stands

That's fine

MIH

And like I've said why would even talk this much in the first place its ridiculous

that’s wifom

13:01

plenty of people talk a lot regardless of their alignment

Okay i confess im actually despair you cuaght me

13:01

Sorry i couldn't keep the facade team

13:03

You shouldn't even be focusing on me cuz im just being quirky

13:03

You should be focusing on finding the despair

it’s not about being quirky or not

13:15

it’s about the content

Okay then try to find out for sure if im despair

13:18

cmon you can do it

13:18

i believe in you

13:19

you too gamecube

13:19

team up and solve this mystery!!!

You could be God Father so the result wouldn't even be definitive

Oh yeah that is true

13:19

Well damn i guess i am despair whoopsie

13:21

its so difficult not giving it away

I'm so bored. Can't we like speedrun day 1?

Nope

13:22

its gonna last for a little while longer

13:23

and plus im still not certain on the kokichi vote

13:24

I wanna see more discussions!

13:24

from kokichi obv

Have you guys ever played mafia in a game of mafia?

I'm not certain on much either lmao.

I JUST HAD THIS IDEA A FEW HOURS AGO

Too much to consider

wouldn't it be funny if ee judt

13:25

played mafia in mafia

Yee it would be

13:25

Plus we'll get to know each other and make better reads.

That is true omg

What's judt?

just

13:26

typed it wrong srry

13:26

Anyways if we're all down for this it'd be funny to just play mafia in mafia

13:27

rather than have dead air we might as well have fun

Right

13:27

The prob is not many people are available at the same time. (edited)

Mafia in mafia as in?

Or they are.

Fire

Mafia in mafia as in?

A shorter version of mafia.

I wanna hear from @New kid | Sam or @Fairy Boots they usually have good reads

with shorter days: around 5-8 minutes or so.

Has everyone even talked here yet?

nope

karcin

with shorter days: around 5-8 minutes or so.

Oh..

we're still missing a few people

13:29

Also can i just get a rundowb on the kokichi reads so far

13:29

So it was his behavior after my vote

Damn

what else

13:30

I did find the reaction a bit too calm imo but im not sure about it

Too calm?

13:30

Didn't people think the opposite?

Is there an option to vote no one?

His reaction to me voting him was just "kill me "

karcin

Is there an option to vote no one?

Idts

He didn't even vote me back

karcin

Is there an option to vote no one?

you don’t have to vote anyone if you don’t want to

karcin

Is there an option to vote no one?

It does say ties are broken by no lynch first so i think so

I didn't vote him for any reason in particular ofc i was just looking for reactions but it seemed odd to me

Rawry

you don’t have to vote anyone if you don’t want to

That's different. I mean no one in the sense that if majority of the people vote no one then the day phase automatically ends. (edited)

So two options a) they are mafia trying too act townie b) their role doesn't interest them and they had rather die?

@ForeverBel is no lynch enabled

13:33

regardless no lynch is a bad option

Rawry

regardless no lynch is a bad option

Not bad for day 1

Agreed especially if we need to tie a vote before choosing that option

No lynch is not enabled

13:34

So we're gonna have to lynch

What if everyone invites?

13:34

Unvotes

im assuming its just gonna be a random kill or something

Can't we like just lynch MIH real quick and speedrun day 1?

NO

13:35

HEY

13:35

Why me

13:35

I claimed guys omg

calm comerade

13:35

I was jk

Wait

13:35

i don't understand the tie rule

13:36

so a tie is broken first by no lynch and then by the first who got the votes

13:36

what does that mean exactly

MIH

so a tie is broken first by no lynch and then by the first who got the votes

It means that if nolynch and a player tied for most votes (so lets say nolynch has 4 votes, and a player has 4, a nolynch would happen)

13:37

But if its a tie between 2 players, the player that got to the most votes first would be lynched

doesn't that require nolynch to be enabled?

It is enabled?

13:37

Where does it say its disabled

Oh my bad

13:38

okay now i understand

13:38

lets not kill then

13:38

I don't wanna kill for now

13:39

Pacifist Route

It's not a smart strategy someone will change at the last minute to kill. I've seen it happen a lot.

Well lets all vote no kill

13:40

If we all vote no lynch they won't be able to do that

yeah

even if all the evils change their vote it would be impossible to even reach us

But at the end moment we can always pivot to somebody else. (edited)

We shouldn't just kill on day 1 for the sake of it

If that means day 1 will end then I'm fine with it

If 7 of us vote no lynch then yeah the day ends

13:42

but i still wanna hear something from the two who haven't even talked yet

I don't want the day to end until everyone speaks

I'm fricking aching for nightfall. Sneers.

why

I have a question about nighttime. I know we can't talk here but can we dm individuals?

Nope

13:46

dming isn't allowed at all

13:46

not during the day or night

Damn

That's a shame

Yeah

Gamecube

That's a shame

lol why?

Because it's beneficial to talk about people you suspect without fearing getting killed by them

Dming is fun

13:47

You can make strategies with people

True or trick people to trust you

Yeh

or ingratiate with someone (edited)

So during the night if you don't have a role you just don't do anything basically

Bruh

Yep

You've been too obvious Gamecube.

In what way?

I'd say you're outted vanilla townie.

Think whatever you will

13:50

I'm not confirming or denying

Anyways, not my concern.

Do we know who claimed what? Don't feel like scrolling up to check. I know MIH claimed town and a others did too.

Me,Meowy and Silky have claimed town ofc

13:59

but that doesn't really say much

13:59

Meowy and I both said were citizens

13:59

and i said my character was Angie

I did a mistake

Oh?

And that would be?

nvm ignore

14:03

sry

I have a question why is everyone calling Exorcist (forget the other half of the name) Kokichi?

14:05

I know it's their discord name but for this server it's something else, just seems odd.

Idk everyone called him that so i do it as well

14:05

its just easier ig

Okay so they didn't change their name or anything?

Im assuming not idk

Respect the new nickname they've adopted. (c'mon I wouldn't say such a thing. who cares anyways? they don't) (edited)

I don't have a problem with the name lol, I'm just wondering if it was changed mid game

oh

14:09

I see now

14:09

No, I don't think so.

14:09

But better ask somebody else.

This is what I found in the search bar

14:12

Might be worth asking Meowry and Kokichi about this later

Omg who would do such a thing

If you ask me, we're just overthinking since we've got nothing better to do. lol

Yup

14:14

We don't have anything to go off since it's day 1 so all we can do really is grasp at straws

Basically yeah

What happened to our idea of playing mafia in mafia?

14:15

or maybe Jackbox

We might as well play outside of the chat. Would be a pain for people to go through everything we said mixed with an unrelated game.

Hey guys sorry being late i had some irl stuff

14:17

i see there's already been a lot of talking

Nothing important though

Really?I see there's already been votes put in?Im gonna try to catch up with the chat

Oh you think you're hoodwinking us lmao

Hahaha

Most important thing is there were 3 claims for town. A few suspicions thrown around.

I forgot to change the color of the name too but this was still pretty funny

Couldn't you find a more creative name than Sam?

Sam is one of the players in here

Imagine being named Sam.

14:20

lol

I thought I'd go with that

MIH

I thought I'd go with that

One more thing never trust MIH (edited)

14:21

Ill watch out thanks!

Not sure what happened but your older messages have different profile pictures

Omg Sam why don't you trust me

14:23

Guys i think Sam might be Arsonist idk

14:23

we should watch out!!!

Wait who is sam

MIH

Oh..

What?!?!?

14:24

Im not sam

Everyone is Sam

We're all Sam omg

14:26

Are you claiming Sam.!..!.

It's too soon

Swowwyy im late guys....uwu

Bruh-

14:29

Mih

14:29

We know it's you

?

14:29

Im not Mih

14:30

I'm

14:30

KawaiiUwuNani6704.

14:30

OwO

Sure

14:30

Ur discord name is mih tho

Well yeah nuzzles your uwu i though i was cute >~< .It comes from made in heaven and I like the whole angel vibe with cute wings

kill me now

14:33

just do it

Haha I am not buying that

vote me

Sowwy im swuch a weirdo hehe

fucking murder me

14:33

idgaf

14:33

i'm blocking you if this shit continues

wait who tf is this

Reb

wait who tf is this

Mih

Reb

wait who tf is this

it's mih

14:33

but they've gone full cringe

Oh

14:34

I see

Im not Mwihuwu

14:34

I sweal

14:35

0~0

ok you're getting blocked

I-

never talk to me again

Pwese fowgive mwee

14:35

U...uwu

Lmao

i have no idea what that message just said

14:35

because you're fucking blocked

14:35

don't say shit to me

OwO

you no longer exist.

who are you speaking to

But i wanna exist nyeh

14:36

Meow

nobody

14:36

there's just a draft that comes in every now and again to give me a headache

Damn

...it appears to be back

Ah there it is

goddamn it

14:37

this house has shit ventilation

Guwys stwup hwurtin my fweeenings NwN

i'm gonna get a migraine at this rate

14:37

press F to pay respects to my healht

14:37

*health

14:37

goddamn draft ruining my spelling

MIH

Guwys stwup hwurtin my fweeenings NwN

Fuwu

KawaiiUwuNani... seriously

Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi)

goddamn draft ruining my spelling

F

What did i dooo....did i annoy meowster chongyun U~U

why does the draft keep coming back smh

Nyeeh grrrr

it's literally hot as shit

14:39

it may be autumn but still

You're making me a very angwy neko

i'm calling the meteorologists

Lmfao im d y i n g

Tea

Chongyun senpai

14:40

Fowgive me sama...

if i move do a differnt room will it go away

Uwu

*to

14:40

*different

14:40

GODDAMN DRAFT >:(

UWU

mald about it

shut it, zach

U W U

my spelling is slowly deteriorating

Lmao

Nyah!

what has my life come to

14:40

i am worth nothing

14:40

sadge

Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi)

shut it, zach

get a crystal ball on yo head from that anger

If i purr will you fowgive me myaster nyah

Reb

get a crystal ball on yo head from that anger

i'm not angry

14:41

and i actually do have a headache now :(

14:41

no joke

14:41

i think it might be my glasses combined with my shitty health

Damn

Hey

14:42

Im back

i have to keep them on anyway

who was that?@?

cos otherwise everything is blurry as fuck

Lmfao

mih you're staying blocked

14:42

idgaf

What

14:42

but whyy

14:42

did i do anything?

because

14:42

you deserve it

Lmao

Looks like you fought with KawaiiUwuNani6704 not me

MIH

If i purr will you fowgive me myaster nyah

The name changed...exposed

14:43

Hehe

Anyways this was funny maybe ill do it again when we have nothing to do

14:43

although now that this is over

14:43

idk what else we can talk about

eh idc you're staying blocked

Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi)

eh idc you're staying blocked

NOOO HOW WILL I EVER CONFESS MY LOVE TO YOU

14:44

MIH

idk what else we can talk about

Just wait for actual new people to talk

i love how he's same nationality as me but complete opposite otherwise

different fonts

Solid performance though. I'll give you a 7.5/10

oh hey! a

14:45

shit

UHM EXCUSE ME

Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi)

oh hey! a

The fuck you mean "oh hey, a shit"

7.5?I had to go trhough a lot of pain to be KawaiiUwuNani6704

i havent played chronicles in a while

14:45

lemme recognize that pfp

14:45

...asogi something

14:45

KAZUMA

14:45

KAZUMA PFP

Damn

MIH

7.5?I had to go trhough a lot of pain to be KawaiiUwuNani6704

7.8 feel better?

Okay that's good

I need to leave so I'll see you all later

Bye

7.8/10 too much water

14:48

-ign's review of alpha sapphire/omega ruby

That's why I changed to that

pokemon

Gamecube

That's why I changed to that

a fellow gamer, i see

14:49

i hope you're not a degenerate like 90% of gamers

Im a gamer too

MIH

Im a gamer too

you're proving my point

14:51

>you're part of the 90%

Damn

sigh and it begins again

i can just tell from the nickname change and pfp change

goddamn degenerate

14:52

k gonna go stab myself in the head to get rid of my headache

seeya

Let's vote mih for having multiple identities

Damn

vents

14:54

Omg no

14:54

i don't have multiple identities

14:55

I just saw the impostor from among us guys

14:55

OH MY GOD WOULD THE MESSAGES SEPARATE ALREADY

14:55

14:56

WOW NOW YOU WORK

14:56

Ugh

Damn

that's it im voting Discrd

14:56

We're lynching Discord today

Damn.

So zach wassup

14:57

school starts tmr

14:57

pain

¯\(ツ)\/¯

14:57

also yeah pain

I didn't have hw for tmr but i have a lot of hw for the next few days

14:59

very tiring

Damn

well howdiddly

17:57

I haven't checked my role yet so anything I say is NAI

17:57

heads up I am probably mafia with @MIH

17:57

Omg really

17:58

oh wait yeah i just saw the mafia chat lol

17:58

Not us being despair besties

why has someone made me their number one fan

17:59

also i'm chongyun in this so that doesn't even make sense

17:59

ok

oh dope it's me @MIH and @Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi)

god fuck my shoulder hurts

You ok bud?

Fairy Boots

oh dope it's me @MIH and @Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi)

Omg they were right with the kokichi vote

18:02

My god

18:02

shouldn't have doubted them

18:04

Guys im

18:04

framer

18:04

is that a rollable role

18:06

nvm its not

hehe goon sounds fun

18:26

i claim goon guys

Hi

wow

W

hello uh

18:29

mafia goon

18:29

gottem

Aaa

19:33

sorry

19:33

Will talk more

19:33

After work

New kid | Sam

After work

Ayoooooo don’t I know you

Yea

21:37

U do

21:37

Lol

Ew no lynch

00:24

Commit to making mistakes like the two of us

No Lynch Pacifist Run

idk why we would vote no lynch

03:13

lynching is our only tool to weed out evils and get valuable info

03:15

it just feels awfully convenient that I had a vote on mih then they suggested no lynch

‍♀️

Don't want to accidentally lynch innocents on the first day

03:51

So no lynch is better imp

03:52

*imo

Rawry

it just feels awfully convenient that I had a vote on mih then they suggested no lynch

‍♀️

Please im not scared of your vote bestie

04:00

We barely have any info for today besides the reads from the start of the day

04:01

I don't want us to lynch someone just because we have a chance of getting it right

04:01

plus i could've just voted kokichi if i really wanted to save myself from your spooky vote

04:03

Oh no how dare I want to skip the lynch on day 1!

04:04

Burn the witch!

You're so fixated on me being the baddie

04:14

I hope we both get to live till the end so we can continue this little acussation

04:14

game

04:17

or even better what if you do manage to lynch me that would be so hot

Go Rawry go

04:32

you can do it!

Rawry

it just feels awfully convenient that I had a vote on mih then they suggested no lynch

‍♀️

Do you have any reads on anyone else other than MIH?

They don't cuz im their mafia crush

I understand

Zilch bestie do you believe im maf?

Damn

MIH

Zilch bestie do you believe im maf?

Not if you always play so recklessly.

Wdym omg

I'll tell what I think of your day 1 logs on the next day if necessary. (edited)

Tell me now

karcin

Do you have any reads on anyone else other than MIH?

Sylvie saying ppl can lie about their roles (and then losing in a previous game because of it) was a bit odd

Omg rawry

04:58

Rawryyyy

04:58

Rawry atleast told us how sussie i was unlike you Zilch

I’m not sure what character sylvie is trying to go for cause basically all the main characters have something about tree or leaf in their names lol

wait

but thought it’s weird that they’d bring up people lying about their roles

i think it know who sylvie is

05:00

i won't say cuz privacy but its pretty easy to figure out

05:00

i might wrong though

05:00

so wtv

The fortune telling guy yasuhiro hagakure could be “leaf”

rlly?

05:01

I was thinking Gonta

ya the character for “ha” in their name is literally leaf

oh

I’m japanese though so I could be over analyzing by looking at their names

05:02

but basically all the main characters have something about tree or leaf in their name

05:02

so it doesn’t tell me much

i wonder if the mcs are all investigative roles

btw are you close with zilch

Nope

are they usually this eager to get through day 1

05:03

I thought that was a bit off too

This is my first game with them

05:03

Hmm i get what you mean

05:03

but at the same time maybe they didn't expect this to last as long

05:04

i sort of understand it for day 1 ig?We don't have much to work with

05:04

Day 2 will be much more fruity info wise

05:06

Although

05:06

unlike zilch

05:06

i wanna hear from Sam and Saint

I wanted to hear more from fairy

05:07

last game she was all into game solving

Has Fairy talked

this time I haven’t seen that

05:07

yea she talked with u lol

OH WAIT YEAH

05:08

Rawry do you wanna hear my reads?

05:08

Do yoooouuuu

yes sure

Omg

05:08

so

05:08

they are pretty baseless

05:08

but

that’s fine it’s day 1

first one i had was

05:09

what if Kokichi,Musical and Zach ar Mafia since they were all active at the start,maybe they got to talking in the mafia chat as well

05:09

Idk its unlikely but it would be funny

05:09

the second is

05:09

the no lynch vote

05:10

I wanted to do it to see who would even do it besides me

so like I actually believe kokichi is most likely vanilla townie

05:11

they’re a lot quieter as scum imo

05:11

if you remember from the last main game

I'd also like to believe kokichi tbh

that said I think there is at least 1 scum on that wagon

that's why i didn't wanna vote him for serious

fire zilch meowy

The vote on kokichi happened pretty suddenly

and like it’s the same ppl on the no lynch wagon

05:13

fire and zilch

Yeah i noticed that too

05:13

Hmm

05:14

This is getting interesting

05:14

Im surprised that no one else has jumped to vote me though

05:15

I mean Gamecube said they don't trust ne and Zilch said he has thoughts about my day 1 funny

05:15

But only you made the sexy move to vote me

GameCube feels towny

05:16

just based on gut that they’re not just sheeping and trying to game solve

Yeah i also feel they're townie

05:17

Would you look at that we do agree on stuff

I don’t mind switching to fire or zilch

05:18

I’d rather get more info

Im gonna think about voting but for now ill keep no lynch

05:18

I do get why you wanna vote but yeah

consider it a reaction test

I'll see

05:19

I can't say i wouldn't like to push someone for some info atleast

05:19

plus we might actually get some evils

actually can we switch to zilch lol

karcin

I did a mistake

this was such an odd thing to say

05:22

like they typed in the wrong chat or something

HE DIDN'T EVEN EXPLAIN IM SO CURIOUS

lol right like what was the mistake

What was the mistake @karcin

they’ve also edited some posts I see

Oh i was there for those

oh what happened lol

just spelling mistakes from what i remember

05:27

I probably would've noticed if he said something odd but yeah

05:27

i wanna know the mistake

and yea I provided all my reads so far

Rawry

like they typed in the wrong chat or something

lol

MIH

Tell me now

I wouldn't mind lynching you on day 2 or 3 if you don't claim PR in the following days.

excuse me

05:31

Not you accusing me?!?!?

you can accuse mih after you explain the mistake lol

Why do you want me to claim PR?

Rawry

you can accuse mih after you explain the mistake lol

I don't want to. You are free to lynch me for it.

Like uh what?

05:32

Sussy?

05:32

Baka

‍♂️

@karcin can you share your reads

05:33

I gave mine

MIH

Why do you want me to claim PR?

Because as mrawry pointed out you've made some scummy logs and you're causing too much confusion for a vanilla townie.

Wow

05:34

well that's just how i am

05:34

I would explain why im doing this but it would ruin it

Rawry

@karcin can you share your reads

You started late. I already did yesterday. You can scroll up and see if you care. I'll post it again if there are any developments with my reads.

Plus you can ask rawry yourself i acted liked this in previous games and im always town (true)

05:35

Guys omg im not evil i would never

karcin

You started late. I already did yesterday. You can scroll up and see if you care. I'll post it again if there are any developments with my reads.

ok I read

05:37

so according to you kokichi and mih is sus, fire and gamecube inno?

I townread gamecube

guuuys omg

Infact, Gamecube is most towny to me.

I can't be mafia i don't even know what mafia is like what

05:38

mih you’re not helping your case

As I said, they're only good at creating confusion.

05:39

So this is the life of a falsely accused person

Rawry

so according to you kokichi and mih is sus, fire and gamecube inno?

And about fire, she is slightly towny to me for now. She's been very concise and direct in her speech with no drama whatsoever and that's towny to me.

MIH

Plus you can ask rawry yourself i acted liked this in previous games and im always town (true)

I mean yes in the past two games you were town and you behaved similarly

Im always good

05:41

#noevil

but I’d ask if you’re town to please help us out

Rawry

I mean yes in the past two games you were town and you behaved similarly

And that is why we're not gonna lynch them on day 1

Rawry

but I’d ask if you’re town to please help us out

How do you want me to help ooouuuut...

05:42

I've helped

05:42

I claimed

05:43

i told my character

05:43

i had some vague reads im voting

05:43

Im talkin im here

05:44

I can't really do much more in day 1 can i?

05:44

just tone down the anti town behavior

its not anti town its to help

05:45

Ugh fine ill be serious but the game will be much more boring

05:46

Activating serious mode

05:46

Now.

be like lifeline

05:46

lol

Boring.

05:46

Plus Lifeline went along with my quirky but it is too late now.

05:46

Anyways.

what’s your read on fire

Town.

05:48

Although not 100% on it.

05:48

I'll say most likely town.

ok

05:49

I’m null on fire

UGH THIS IS SO BORING IM GOING BACK TO QUIRK

05:49

now

05:50

Fire

05:50

hasn't done much

05:50

her behavior has been towny however

05:50

So yeah that's about it

05:50

So, I'm being basically voted because I wrote "I did a mistake" and for voting Kokichi and then switching off to nolynch?

That's why Rawry voted you yeah

05:51

so scary

05:51

Rawry wants to lynch someone for us to get super sexy info

05:52

I argued that's risky

05:52

but i might do it IF we find something more definitive on someone

I told you yesterday MIH

05:52

That my vote on Kokichi isn't final

well that's why im not voting you

which implies that it was more or less a reaction test

05:54

to get more reactions out of somebody who already had scummy reactions in the past

Ugh i wanna say something but i don't wanna ruin my super sexy plan

05:54

so frustrating

05:54

anyways

05:54

I get what you wanted to do

And yes, I'm can't wait for night to start. lol

that's why i do not wanna vote anyone rn

05:55

I defended you Zilch

05:55

#loveforeevreee

Likewise comrade (edited)

The thing is that what rawry bestie wants to do is find info

05:56

voting now is a matter of

05:56

do we value info over numbers

MIH

The thing is that what rawry bestie wants to do is find info

Yeah, I read that.

or we could lynch an inactive

05:57

I’m ok with that

05:57

an inactive town is dead weight

I mean i guess

They'll get replaced

05:57

so not really

But wouldn't it be better to just let the inactive town get killed

usually the replacements aren’t very good lol

we might as well make use of em

they don’t read the game

05:57

and confuses town

Or we could go to sleep

05:58

meowy hello

05:58

what's YOUR take on all of this

05:58

huh?huh?

Kokichi zilch bad

MIH

But wouldn't it be better to just let the inactive town get killed

Nah there's no reason for mafia to target inactives

^ this

05:59

usually the inactives are saved for later mislynches lol

True

Ugh fine if by the end of the day we have someone who barely talked we can lynch them

06:00

Ill be willing to vote for that

06:00

or again if we find more dirt on someone

ugh it’s 3am and I can’t sleep

Damn

06:37

try and stay off your phone and idk close your eyes

06:38

usually what i do is just watch stuff on my phone until i get tired

When we say somebody is a townie, are we implying that they are on the town's side or that they are a powerless player on town side?

town's side

07:29

regardless of power

Can't we just refer to powerless townies as villagers?

So people were just claiming to be good

Idts

I think MIH did say they were an ordinary one

Yep

07:37

I have no abilities which is a bummer

07:38

Boring poop role

You're certainly making the most out of it at least

07:41

We have to vote to lynch later today if I'm not mistaken. Hopefully inactives talk so we can get a better picture here.

Gamecube

I think MIH did say they were an ordinary one

And so did meowy and Kokichi

Okay good then nothing changes

But it's just day 1 so ofc everybody would claim vanilla

One of them could be lying tho-

07:43

There are like 13 players

They all could be lying for all we know

And only one which can't do anything

07:44

Unless they r town links

Gamecube

They all could be lying for all we know

True

Fire

And only one which can't do anything

What do you mean?

karcin

What do you mean?

Like ik there could be like two Vanilla town but three

07:45

And all other town roles have abilities

07:45

I think I am just overthinking it

Looking at how the C9++ setup is formulated, I think there can be easily 3-5 vanilla townies. (edited)

Possibly...

Actually

07:46

Ahem

07:46

ahem

07:46

If you read meowy's claim again you could actually understand what he's claiming

I don't think there is the inno child role or they would have been revealed

The minimum no. of vanilla townies possible is 3 or so I think.

MIH

If you read meowy's claim again you could actually understand what he's claiming

Care to enlighten us?

MIH

If you read meowy's claim again you could actually understand what he's claiming

Ah ok got it

oh

Yeah

07:50

lemme find the message srry

Is it the one about being overpowered?

Idts...

Meowy

Yay what a coincidence me too! Besties again?

This

07:52

I wouldn't take it as a vanilla claim

lol but why are you telling this on day1?

Gamecube

You're certainly making the most out of it at least

Well obviously

If i have nothing else to do i might as well talk

07:53

Therefore

07:53

only me and Kokichi are claiming Vanilla

07:53

Meowy sort of claimed but meh and Sylvie claimed something town

karcin

lol but why are you telling this on day1?

See, I knew it. That's why I said I'll give my reads on you in the following days but you just openly said it for everyone to read. lol

07:54

including mafias

Everyone's seen the message already

07:55

its been brought up before

hmm

plus you'd have to really dense not figure it out

Thanks

its like saying the "accidental" mafia messages i wrote were true

07:57

and for all we know meowy could be baiting the killers so they don't kill the actual power roles

Yeah

07:58

That's WIFOM

Also as i was reading the role list and everything

07:58

im probably very late to this but yeah

07:58

it said how the more power town has the more scum are or something along those lines

07:59

so if by tmr we have sk and maf we should assumed there aren't that many vanillas maybe 2

07:59

as it stands there could even be 3 or 4 depends on how many evils have been rolled

Anyone here still in the no lynch camp?

I still am

I am as well just because people haven't talked

(So I see how people are Trying to guess my Role)

Like I've stated,im not 100% no lynch but until a target is agreed upon by the lynchers and they also have convincing arguments on why lynch that person ill remain no lynch

(I recommend asking the character I play questions, rather than Trying to guess based on a Tiny detail.)

Don't feel good about lynching anyone here until we have at least an idea of everyone playing.

Mhm

BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic

(I recommend asking the character I play questions, rather than Trying to guess based on a Tiny detail.)

"So can you tell us a little bit about yourself?Since we're here we might as well get to know eachother"

“I guess I could do SOMETHING like that. What do you want to know about?”

BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic

(I recommend asking the character I play questions, rather than Trying to guess based on a Tiny detail.)

.

MIH

"So can you tell us a little bit about yourself?Since we're here we might as well get to know eachother"

(Also, Btw. Try to guess better? Gonta? Really? I love my Boy but he doesnt say his Pronouns.)

BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic

“I guess I could do SOMETHING like that. What do you want to know about?”

"Do you specialize in anything in particular?hmmm??"

MIH

"Do you specialize in anything in particular?hmmm??"

“Oh! Im very skilled in fighting! I could probably even beat everyone in this game if I found anyone!”

lol

BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic

“Oh! Im very skilled in fighting! I could probably even beat everyone in this game if I found anyone!”

"Woah,so you have super strength!"

MIH

"Woah,so you have super strength!"

“You could say something like that!”

BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic

“You could say something like that!”

"But is it a special type of fighting like martial arts or do you just beat up people with punches"

MIH

"But is it a special type of fighting like martial arts or do you just beat up people with punches"

“Your asking really specific questions about how I fight arent you…Why Dont I get a question or two?”

"Okay dokie!What do you wanna know?"

“Hmmmmm….”

08:23

“Well, I can easily cut you down with this… What Gender are you? I can see you so this helps me Narrow your look.”

"Oooh...I see I see...I'm a girl!What's your gender huuuuh?"

MIH

"Oooh...I see I see...I'm a girl!What's your gender huuuuh?"

(Im back, This next fact will tell you who I am)

09:05

“Oh good, your not a Degenerate Male…I’m also a Girl though.”

"Oooh ,girl to girl conversation i see!"

ooh fuc

10:25

k

10:25

ok

10:25

who's scum

10:25

i am vanilla

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New kid | Sam

who's scum

I don't really think the scum would reply to that

New kid | Sam

i am vanilla

That's another claim for regular townie

I’m jimmy

Fire

I don't really think the scum would reply to that

why not

New kid | Sam

why not

Would u have replied if u were the scum

Okay then we have a problem

10:31

wait no actually not yet

10:31

3/4 vanilla is technically possible i think?

Depends on how many evils there are

10:32

Which we can only get to know tmrw

Fire

Would u have replied if u were the scum

yes! duh

MIH

3/4 vanilla is technically possible i think?

yeah

10:33

ttttttt

10:33

2-1-9

Okay so how are gonna go about the beheading guys

10:34

Cuz rn it looks like we're going with no lymch

I'm not against lynching I just don't have a victim in mind

New kid | Sam

yes! duh

Some people dont believe in honesty

We should talk about candidates if we want to lynch

I wanna candidate ❤️

I'm against voting for you

10:45

We're besties now

10:45

Besties omg

10:46

Since Rawry wanted lynch i wanna see more points brought on who we should lynch

If you had to vote though who would it be?

hmmm

10:46

that's difficult

10:47

Probably one of the less active people

10:47

Idk anything about them this game

10:47

so if i had to choose it would be one of them

Don't disagree there if it comes down to it

I guess it would Jimmy idk

10:48

Sam has atleast voted and said some stuff

10:49

Jimmy just posted a tiktok and said hi

He hasn't talked much in the mafia chat either

I thought you meant like the in game one

I'm just messing around lol

10:50

I was I implying that

I was like omg don't reveal us gamecube

So far Zilch is on the chopping block

In general the main lynch candidates that have been discussed are

Not sure if I agree with that agree with that, but then again I'm not sure of much

Kokichi,Me ,Zilch and Fire

10:54

But i don't wanna lynch any of the four

10:54

Until further arguments against any of them

Not sure if not lynching is a good play. In shorter matches most of them I've experience, people always skip since we know nothing.

Well yeah that's kinda the problem

Here we know a little more about each other, but it's not really that much. We know claims of town and some are suspected of town as well.

We've just been repeating the same things i feel like

10:57

We should just decided on something already

10:57

If we're gonna lynch someone we should start talking about it

10:58

we have 7 hours left but still

We explored most avenues of discussion and I can't think of anything else

My main problem with the lynch now is that we're at risk of losing 3 people if we get it wrong potentially

10:59

Ofc we could have just mafia

10:59

and we could get something right

10:59

but idk

Serial killer potentially as well

worst case scenario 3 townies will die by day 2 and best case none technically if we get lucky

I did say I didn't want to vote on inactive people earlier, but I'd rather have an active potential threat rather than a useless ally.

I get what you're saying yeah

11:01

Hmm

11:01

I'd be fine with voting Jummy

11:01

Jimmy

11:02

But i wanna hear any defense from them if they have one

There's like three who haven't spoken much right?

Sam ,Fairy ,Jimmy and Zach

11:03

They've talked the least

11:04

I don't really want to go for Zach since he's usually not one to talk much from what I've noticed even when he's town

11:04

For now that is

11:05

So that would leave us with three peeps

You played with any if the three before?

I've replaced Zack in a game and he was town but he didn't really say much until je was accused and eveb then he didn't do amazing defending himself so that's why Im not as suspicious of him

11:08

Ive been in a game with fairy were they were mostly inactive and one were they were active

11:09

Sam was also active in the game i joined but they were dead when i joined and same with Fairy

11:09

I haven't even seen Jimmy in any game

Just curious what about everyone else?

11:15

I know it's my first game in this format but I've played shorter games both in person and online. Quiet people fall into 3 categories for those. 1. They have no powers and don't know what to do. 2. They are evil and let a teammate hold the wheel. 3. They have a role and try to stay out of the spotlight. Not sure how much it helps in this format.

Ima

11:30

Be active

11:30

More next day

11:30

But i am literally swamped

11:30

And have been

11:30

For the entiretynof this cycle

11:30

Just wait for greatness

11:30

That's what I meant by "not sure how much it helps in this format" I totally get being swamped with work or whatever you are dealing with

Hmmm

Lmao y wud u vote eqsy

Yeah no actually

12:25

lets just vote eqsy they didn't claim.guys

Sure let's do that

12:28

Let's all vote for eqsy

It's alright they probably got confused... happens

Bruh but like

12:49

Jimmy has said nothing but hi and voted Esqy

12:49

If we are to vote someone ik who I'm picking

hi hi good morning

Mornin

12:51

how'd you sleep

I have sleep problems lol

12:51

I actually didn’t sleep until 5am

Same

12:52

i mean now with school i only go to like 2 usually

12:52

Anyways welcome back to the party

yess what’s new besides jimmy voting eqsy

Well we've just talked about what to do since there's not much time left

12:54

Gamecube suggested that we could vote someone inactive and i agreed

12:54

so we sorted out who talked the least and i suggested we vote Jimmy

Gamecube

I know it's my first game in this format but I've played shorter games both in person and online. Quiet people fall into 3 categories for those. 1. They have no powers and don't know what to do. 2. They are evil and let a teammate hold the wheel. 3. They have a role and try to stay out of the spotlight. Not sure how much it helps in this format.

this?

12:56

I don’t think it’s 1

12:56

I may be jumping to conclusions but seems like jimmy knew sam from elsewhere lol

Regardless

13:01

are we gonna lync or not

I'm fine with Jimmy

MIH

are we gonna lync or not

If you don't want to then don't

Won't vote until later in case something happens

Rawry was pushing for lynching today i just gave everyone my terms

Suppose it was lylo, who would you vote in that case Gamecube?

are you asking if gamecube would also vote?

Not sure what you mean by lilo

It's a situation where you either lynch a mafia or you lose

I think they mean if we are gonna lynch would you go ahead and vote

Yeah

13:05

lylo= lynch or you lose

I won't vote for anyone who is actively talking for now, with the little info we have we are likely going to lynch an innocent so I say go for someone who isn't participating

Personally

13:07

and i think gamecube would agree

13:07

Im voting only if the people who wanna lynch agree to go for Jimmy since they're the most inactive and they've acted randomly

hmm

I agree

I'd like to see how many people would agree with lynching Jimmy.

Well yeah

13:09

im not saying we should lynch im saying if it comes down to it

13:09

if the majority wants a vote ill submit but only for a Jimmy vote

It's certainly doesn't have to come down to it as it's just day 1

13:10

Seriously, more often than not, an afk townie is always a free day kill for mafia.

That is true Doctor can protect somebody, but if I were mafia I would take the risk on a more active player

13:13

And we don't even know if the doctor can even heal more than once

I'm talking about day kills though

13:13

lynches

Okay that makes more sense

Like how convenient is it for mafia to eliminate a coasty/afk town to lynch them at day instead of wasting their night kill on them?

I've done it before to lower the player count. Every kill counts if you want to tie or outnumber the good side

If anyone is too insistant about lynching Jimmy on day 1 then they're a little sus to me.

That's fair

MIH

Im voting only if the people who wanna lynch agree to go for Jimmy since they're the most inactive and they've acted randomly

And wdym they've acted randomly? The voted for Eqsy who's not even playing. It was obviously a meme vote.

You bring up a good point

Yes that's what I thought

13:17

Like an evil would have payed more attention to the game

I wanted to wait and see who others will ask for lynching Jimmy but I'll be going offline in a short while most probably.

Unless it was a strategy

Coasting when you're mafia is mostly a bad strategy. (edited)

13:18

unless Jimmy is new to mafia

I don't think they are new to Mafia

I see

karcin

And wdym they've acted randomly? The voted for Eqsy who's not even playing. It was obviously a meme vote.

Yeah well meme randomly basically the same thing,they haven't contributed to anything so that's why i suggested Jimmy

13:29

but i don't think that will be the case anyway

13:30

I don't wanna vote and it doesn't seem like there's a lot of people eager to do it

sorry

14:08

this was my original worry, that i didn't know what to do or when to do it lol

14:09

this is my first game, i am hope. someone else on hope pls tell me what to do, lol.

omg coming out?!

14:11

Also we were just discussing what to do

14:11

some of us don't wanna vote and have voted no lynch

14:11

some do

14:11

and me and gamecube said we wanna vote Jimmy if we really have to vote someone

well i say if we have no solid suspicions we do no lynch

14:12

rather a despair survive than a possible hope die

Mhm that's what i was thinking

14:12

vote no lynch in the voting chat if you want

Voted no lynch

14:36

If I'm alive in future votes I will not be doing it again

14:37

Lynching is critical in winning so skipping more than once is not the best idea. Hope everyone keeps that in mind going forward.

Well duh

14:46

This is the only time we should no lynch

14:46

tomorrow well have

14:46

MUCH more indo

14:46

info

since there's barely 3 hours left of the day

15:34

I just wanted to wish everyone luck for the night

15:34

Don't forget to lock your dooooorrsss

MIH

Well duh

You'd be surprised lol. I've played a few games where most people tried not to lynch in the second round.

Hh yeah same

16:20

Nevertheless based on the claims we've got today and the reads an all that plus the info we'll get from the deaths

16:20

we'll surely have enough to make a correct lynch

16:20

hopefully

we have hammer?

oh yeah

16:43

we do actually

16:43

Welp

wth jimmy

16:44

@ForeverBel hammer

There were only 2 hours left or so anyway

yea

Good Night darlings

----day 1 end/day 2 start---- (edited)

ForeverBel pinned a message to this channel. 10/05/2021 5:56 PM

HAHAHAHHAAA

17:56

HAHAHAHAHA

17:56

PFT

17:57

Please

17:57

Not us getting super lucky

17:58

Okay so that means we have some veeeryy quirky power townies

17:58

since we got both the maf and sk

17:58

well now just two mafia

17:59

and with sammy bestie down that means one vanilla townie claim down

18:00

Anyways go town omg

18:01

hmmm

18:01

i wonder...

18:02

I have a theory but i don't wanna be beaten up by the people i accuse

18:06

Also

18:06

it seem like our dear pal z just commited a murder

hello

18:09

what a nice way to start the game D2 lol

MIH

it seem like our dear pal z just commited a murder

(fear not. Q is not dead, just knocked out :) )

Omg

18:10

so happy Q survived honestly

18:10

favorite character

so like this is way more info than I expected lol

18:12

but if we have a SK that narrows down the possibility of roles quite a bit

See we didn't even have to lynch!

18:13

Mega info

we prolly have: TTT (goon, goon, RB, SK) TTTTT (goon, GF, SK) much less likely we could have: T (goon, RB, GF, SK) TTTTTTT (goon, GF, SK)

Btw do you wanna hear my theory

if nobody gets feedback that they got RB’d it’s prolly TTTTT

18:17

@ForeverBel do we get feedback on being RB’d regardless of them having a night action

MIH

Btw do you wanna hear my theory

yes let’s trade theories lol

omg so

18:19

im still a little hooked up on the no lynch vote

18:19

because

I told you scum was on that wagon

18:19

lol

both of our beautiful victims voted no lynch

18:19

So im wondering

18:19

yknow

18:19

is there any other maf who went with it

18:19

for example

18:19

Jimmy

18:20

Who hammered it

yea the silent hammer was weird

I think

18:20

sam

18:20

or the other maf is there's two more

18:20

told jimmy to hammer

18:20

very scary stuff

sam is more thoughtful than that imo

Then it must've been the other maf member

I think he’d have been like … post something then hammer

because sam was barely active on day 1

ok so like

18:21

the fire kill was weird

18:21

if I were evil I’d have gone after gamecube

Rawry

@ForeverBel do we get feedback on being RB’d regardless of them having a night action

if someone was RB'd, they would receive feedback.

I think they got baited when some of us said fire was townie

18:22

they just went for it

GameCube would have been a better target

18:22

which makes me think

18:22

scum is not reading

18:22

lol

They couldn't kill me exactly since im such a celebrity either

18:23

#Howtohandlefame

18:23

Imo but don't tell anyone else

18:23

Secret

18:23

Zilch or musical are could be maffy baddies

honestly they’re prob saving you for a later mislynch

well yeah obv

who said fire was towny

18:25

you and zilch?

Yeah i thought she was pretty townie

18:25

and zilch said so too i think

18:25

maybe gamecube as well?

18:26

Wait yeah cuz you asked me to be serious and then i was asked what my read on fire was

18:27

Nevertheless after more people wakey wakey we'll need to inspect the no lynch vote

18:28

Hehe what a funny way this game has turned

thanks maf thanks sk

That went well

HAHAHAHAHAH

I'm suprised Fire was attacked, but I'm not complaining

same

18:35

I think scum is not reading lol

Yeah sorry guys i typed the wrong target last night

In my notes I had: Fire: scummy, authoritative, probs PR or mafia Sam: not playing at all like his last PR game

I was expecting die, when I'm good I rarely survive night 1

I didn’t realise that we had 3rd party roles

Fairy can we get your reads on zilch

mrawry you also aren’t playing like last game which I hope it a good thing

18:38

Fairy Boots

mrawry you also aren’t playing like last game which I hope it a good thing

Mind elaborating

They were mafia

18:40

I guess they didn’t try to lead conversations, they sunk back into the background just a little bit and offered more vague responses. Overall very good mafia play. My overall impression is they just seem more open and less sneaky, less cautious

Fairy what's your read on me

18:41

100% town riiight

18:41

Right,Fairy?

MIH you’re really hard for me to read. You seemed SO scummy to me last game that I had to really think about it before voting with you at the end. I’ve seen you “open wolf” as town before. Hard null my dude

WHAT

18:43

Excuse me

18:43

Hearbroken

18:43

betrayed by my bff

18:43

in public no less.

Noted… “tries to use guilt as a manipulation tactic to get me to call them townie”

18:44

Me

18:44

i would

18:44

NVER

18:44

NEVER

18:44

When did i do that?

18:44

Gaslighting

18:44

omg

18:44

mafia?

18:44

Mafia much

Ok so zilch… funnily a bit of the heebie jeebies. I didn’t like their use of fullstops, their tone was very abrupt. But I think usually Mafia try to be nice and not piss people off. Pretty null tbh

18:45

@Rawry why zilch specifically? What are you thinking?

18:46

Anyone seen anyone with possible partner equity with sam?

Fairy Boots

I guess they didn’t try to lead conversations, they sunk back into the background just a little bit and offered more vague responses. Overall very good mafia play. My overall impression is they just seem more open and less sneaky, less cautious

yess I am town this game

18:47

I had my theory on zilch yesterday let me go find it

18:47

and no sam was very quiet

18:47

he really only interacted with jimmy

Fairy Boots

Anyone seen anyone with possible partner equity with sam?

Sam didn't really talk much can't think of anything right now unless I go back and read

jimmy which also happened to hammer yesterday shrug

‍♀️

Yeah that’s fair

18:51

Mafia tend to not interact with each other directly, they might call each other townie if they’re at risk of getting voted, and they don’t want to stick their neck out too much by hammering, so could be wifom but maybe that makes jimmy less sus

18:52

I gotta go back and see if fire was accusing someone

ok so I was sus on zilch yesterday because: 1) they seemed overly eager to get through D1 2) they were on kokichi’s wagon (zilch, fire, meowy) then jumped right on no lynch wagon when they had 1 vote from me 3) they claim they made a “mistake” and won’t say what the mistake was

Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

18:53

4) fullstops

18:53

Fullstops meta is real

18:54

How are they usually?

Fairy Boots

Mafia tend to not interact with each other directly, they might call each other townie if they’re at risk of getting voted, and they don’t want to stick their neck out too much by hammering, so could be wifom but maybe that makes jimmy less sus

yea jimmy would not be a good lynch for today

18:55

like what happened with berry in the last game

Omg poor berry

18:55

IMAGINE IF WE GOT FOREVER OUT HAHAHHA

18:56

I really didn’t like you on day 1 but Sam did and got a correct lynch so I was like eh

Fairy Boots

How are they usually?

I don’t know zilch in previous games, think this is their first game here

But Day 1 intuition is usually really good

18:57

I didn’t talk much or even vote, so I kinda miss out on a bit

18:57

But the two people I had the most ??? on are fucking dead and both not town so that’s nice

18:58

I’m happy to vote zilch tbh, but keen to see how the day plays out

18:58

@karcin we need to see a reply

I saw you both talk about Jimmy, are you suspecting them?

just the silent hammer was weird

It was silent as well

18:58

Yeah weird

18:59

Pretty NAI really though

I don’t think they’re new to maf since they seemed to know Sam lol

What is Jimmy’s name?

so makes the hammer weirder

18:59

saintjimmy

@𝕋𝕙𝕖𝔹𝕞𝕚𝕞𝕪 respond pls, why’d you silent hammer

18:59

Also do you know Sam

Mind explaining the hammer? From what I understand it stopped the day early.

Previously

Heyo

Sup!

Fairy Boots

Also do you know Sam

From survivor speeds

Did you know Sam previously?

19:00

Ok

I’m hosting a live challenge

Cool!

19:01

Love survivor

19:01

Why’d you hammer?

Gamecube

Mind explaining the hammer? From what I understand it stopped the day early.

yeah, when there’s a majority vote on someone the day ends early - usually as town this is a bad bad idea unless the person getting lynched is a known evil

19:03

(or in this case, no lynch, it takes away from the town’s ability to continue talking/make reads/etc)

Jimmy tell them you hammered since you were just going with the wagon or something

19:03

o sorry wrong chat

19:04

aw did you make a “mistake” mih

19:04

pulled a zilch there didn’t you

Yeah sorry im new to this whole mafia game

@MIH you want me to read you as town, but you didn’t say what your read on me was, quietly implying that you think I’m town…

19:05

Omg this is why MIH is so scummy

We're both know our roles fairy why would i suspect you

19:05

we are both in the mafia chat

19:05

OH WAIT SORRY

19:06

Did it again

MIH you silly goose

Call me an sleigh cuz i keep slippin

@Gamecube what’s your read on jimmy, you were interested to know if we were scumming them or not

19:06

#everyoneisscum tinfoil

19:07

Besides me

19:07

Im confirmed jailor

@Rawry is townie for now because they’re playing quite unlike last game and gamesolving

wanna see my will

Omg MIH

I went with group

Mih - Jailor N1 - Fairy (Claimed Goon

)

𝕋𝕙𝕖𝔹𝕞𝕚𝕞𝕪

I went with group

Not you actually taking my suggestion

But it’s true

@Rawry what do you think of mih

Fairy Boots

@Gamecube what’s your read on jimmy, you were interested to know if we were scumming them or not

Mostly because Zilch seemed against lynching Jimmy. As for what I think of Zlich it's hard to say. I can see them being good or bad.

no one's ever interested in my reads like honesty #gatekeeping

What are your reads MIH

Omg

19:09

thanks for asking

19:09

so

19:09

unexpected

19:09

well i think

I think the sam is really scummy, and so is fire

Zilch and Jimmy are the other two mafia

Fairy Boots

@Rawry what do you think of mih

I thought initially they were sus lol

19:10

so I voted them yesterday

19:10

and we had a good chat where mih actually gave me reads with reason

Fairy Boots

I think the sam is really scummy, and so is fire

Actually i can confirm both of them since im psychic

I dropped a marker into the toilet

Yeah I scumread them so hard last game but they were town and I had to do a 180

so, for now mih is townie to me

Omg

19:11

I proved myself guys

19:11

100% confirmed

19:11

full proof

19:11

If anyone accuses me ill just say no u

As for me I think MIH is on the good side. He's pointed out useful info and has been all around helpful.

Especially when i slipped the mafia chat

MIH is so scummy… more concerned about getting read as town than gamesolving

19:12

I can’t lol

19:12

Ok cool

19:12

What other reads you got @Gamecube

Tbf i love being confirmed when i act so obviously guilty

No one confirmed you

^

I confirmed myself?

19:13

Free speech

19:13

Self love

19:13

❤️

19:13

Mih what are you?Town Yeah i am

19:14

What are you gonna do about it check me

oh yea that was sus lol

19:14

mih so eager to get checked

19:14

must be GF

Yeah

19:15

Okay now im gonna tell y'all who i trust so far

19:15

so first is rawry

19:15

them gamecube

19:15

Jimmy❤️

19:15

and sort of Fairy

19:15

but that's just cause i suspect Zilch and Jimmy as our mafia squad

19:16

Oh and i also trust Zach

So people agree on Mrawry being the most trustworthy?

After me ,yeah

What about Kokichi seems like they fell out of the limelight pretty quickly

that might make me a target

Dw they'll go after me cuz im jailor

19:20

But about kokichi

I should be more like mih

i think the vanilla town claim is still possible

Quick change your profile and start talking in gibberish

there

Rawry

I should be more like mih

It would not surprise you that most of my deaths come from being lynched

19:21

i rarely get killed

19:22

Especially early game

19:22

Tbh i barely even get evil roles

Time to change that

19:22

OMG

19:22

ME?!?!!

I think kokichi is towny

yeah

they’re usually quieter as scum

And like i said the vanilla townie claim is still possible

yeah

19:23

they feel like vanilla townie

mhm

19:24

Btw i really like your name what did you do to it

thanks

19:24

@Meowy get in here

yeah meowy

19:24

now.

you can be MIHowy

19:25

Imagine an entire game with 13 people who act exactly like me

Speaking of Meowy I feel they are another townie

litterally nothing would be found out

gaMIHcube

gaMihcube.

anyone who doesn’t have MIH in their name is scum

Honestly true

nooo :(

19:26

You guys caught me

OMG

Damn

the host was the goon all along!?!?!!?@

19:26

Uhm lynch based

ForeverBel

You guys caught me

you can be jaMIHs

19:27

lol

lmfao

Are we rebelling against the host?

bet

Yeah game overthrow

19:27

what is the host gonna do kick us

19:28

What if we just target james tonight

19:28

Omg

19:28

nvm

19:28

james town

James town guys drop the pichtforks!

booo

join the MIH club

19:31

gaMIHcube

19:31

jimmy can be jiMIH

19:31

lmao

Yeah you don't wanna get haaaangeeed do you

19:32

Join Mih today to be confirmed town

yes MIH is our mayor

I claim mayor

Do I get a discount at my local MIH store?

Yeah

19:33

Omg

Yee haw

Cowboy

19:33

omg do you claim cowboy

Is that a role? Sure

Dunno

19:33

it would be fun

19:34

During the night lasso two people togheter

19:34

They will both suffer all actions against them

19:34

Goal: Catch a cow

MIH

During the night lasso two people togheter

Tie someone to a train track and the other has to save them

Honestly

19:35

when are getting more creative day deaths like in total drama

19:36

when are we gonna get flushed down a toilet

There's death in that show?

No but they get so over the top that they feel like deaths

19:36

last season litterally has them shot out of a cannon

So instead of lynching we would have people do something like walk the plank?

Yeah

19:39

or again

19:39

get flushed trhough a giant toilet

19:39

The flush of shame

19:39

or in this case

19:39

death

19:40

wait i wonder if the lynches here will be like executions

19:40

I guess we'll find out today

Good point

I bet jaMIHes is coming up with some really good flavors for the lynches

Not many options for lynching

zilch -> zero -> not MIH -> scum

19:42

game solved

Sounds good to me

19:43

Hammer time

JiMIH come hammer again

I’m upset that Monaca is the serial killer while there is a literal serial killer running around in canon

Genocide Jill!

To be fair, Genocide Jill only kills guys. Unless it was only girls I haven't played DR1 in a while.

Only guys

then I would have been safe

Curse me and my hotboy aesthetic

How about musical fox

no they’re town

20:41

MIHusicalfoxes

but real talk I’m kinda null on them

musicalfoxes

rather a despair survive than a possible hope die

this kinda felt a bit weird

Gamecube

I did say I didn't want to vote on inactive people earlier, but I'd rather have an active potential threat rather than a useless ally.

I said something similar

20:54

Well it's not the same thing looking back, but I don't think what they said is that weird

“rather a despair survive” rubbed me the wrong way

Are you referring to Jimmy being brought up just before?

I think it feels forced like over justifying something that 5 other people already reiterated

I can see the possibility of a sam/jimmy/musical scum team

21:44

sam is quite charismatic so the other two could’ve just sheeped along

21:45

that and all 3 of them were mostly afk on D1 which could explain the maf fire kill

21:50

this is assuming the TTT (goon, goon, RB, SK) use case which is most likely roll probability wise

I'm not sure I agree with the mafia hit on Fire being solely because the mafia were not active. Just looking at the game's chat briefly would show who is leading and talking the most.

Rawry

“rather a despair survive” rubbed me the wrong way

i've just found in these games that those willing to kill too early are bad guys trying to cull the herd

I don't think Fire was targeted to due Mafia being inactive

03:11

They might've genuinely believed Fire was town

03:12

Altough it does feel off

03:12

Because there were people who seemed much more townie than Fire

03:17

Also there's still people who haven't talked so we don't know if they got rbed or anything

Quite late to the show, huh?

05:51

And oh I see the fingers are now pointing against me now, so I might as well defend myself and I hope to do so quite gracefully.

05:51

I'll start with mrawry's reads on me.

05:51

or nevermind

05:51

mrawry started their day 1 by pushing MIH right off the bat

05:54

And upon asking if they sus anyone else other than MIH, I guess they might have felt threatened or nah that would be an overstatement, it didn't take them long to turn the finger of suspicion towards me.

Honestly im the victim here

MIH I'll talk to you later after I'm finished saying what I have to say.

Okay sorry go on bestie

You do be writting doe

06:14

My god

06:20

And here, let me tell how unreliable their reads one me are. 1) "they seemed over eager to get through D1" Well, I really was for several reasons. First, I was feeling everyone was overanalyzing things. Second, I kept uttering that I was eager for night to start and also voting no-one to bait mafia into thinking that I've a night action and I would rather rely on my night action instead of randomly lynching on day 1. Third, and what about yourself, mrawry? I was eager for Day 1 to end but you, you were so keen on for getting a lynch on day 1, which is clearly more scummy, As @musicalfoxes rightly pointed out, " i've just found in these games that those willing to kill too early are bad guys trying to cull the herd." mrawry was so ready to condemn Jimmy but they completely disregarded the fact that town majority matters! Even if it's vanllia town, it still matters! Also, as I said yesterday, mafias generally try to get a bandwagon on townies which are afk and coasty because everyone susses afk townies. So, it's just a really convenient move for mafia to make on Day1. They'll get a townie killed at day lynch, it's a FREE KILL FOR THEM!! And so, my point is, being eager to lynch somebody on day 1 is more scummy than being eager for the day to end. 2" they were on kokichi’s wagon (zilch, fire, meowy) then jumped right on no lynch wagon when they had 1 vote from me." Now here, it's really funny if you'll see that they've listed many reasons for suspecting them but they haven't explained how these points mean that I'm scum. All they said was, "it was bit off or weird."

06:24

Yes, I was voiting on kokichi but sorry? I wasn't on kokichi's wagon. It was with my vote on kokichi, that the wagon on kokichi started. So, don't make it sound like everyone was voting for kokichi and so I did so too. kokichi's wagon didn't start until I voted. And honestly, I don't see how of all the people voted kokichi they suspect me? They should suspect the people who voted kokichi after me. And as for why I voted Kokichi, I found their reaction scum earlier and so I pushed them further to get more reaction out of them.

06:24

(Btw I shall remind you all that mrawry also pushed me on day 1, saying to MIH that it's a reaction test, but then they never cared to state their inferences on the reaction that they got out of me. They're still stating the same shitty reads, no offense, which they did on day 1. ) (edited)

06:24

All of the games I've played, Day 1 no lynch is pretty common, but mrawry here is making a great deal out of it without explaining how it makes someone scum whatsoever. 3)" they claim they made a “mistake” and won’t say what the mistake was" I don't even feel the need to defend against this. How does saying that I made a mistake makes someone scum? I didn't say what mistake I made because it was embarrassing for me. Furthermore, suppose I was really a mafia and if I made a mistake, I would have rather posted that "I've made a mistake" in the mafia chat instead of the town chat. 4) " fullstops" Yeah, whatever. Not sure caring to use punctuations in sentences just for the sake of grammar make someone scum. Care to explain? You guys made it sound as if you've been playing with me for quite a while and it's the first time you've seen my using punctuation.

06:25

I didn't intend to make it so convoluted but I just got carried away with the flow.

06:27

Btw, most people were neutral about Fire and they really turned out to be neutral role lol.

06:29

Oh I forgot to post one thing:

06:30

So basically, all these reads by mrawry are pretty baseless. mrawry just tried their best to provide systematic reads on me and listing them down but none of them explains how I'm scum and nor did they care to explain it themselves. They are just half-baked unreliable conjectures/reads organized in a pointed list to make me look scummy.

Omg you've defended yourself pretty well

06:32

Never doubted you bestie!!!

06:34

Btw

06:35

I don't understand the night 1 results.

06:35

Is it possible that the serial killer and mafia targeted each other?

Well that's what happened

Or do you think that one of the kills was the work of a Vigilante?

That's what happened

Fire was killed by despair

06:35

and Sam by the anomaly

06:36

which was fire

oh right. It's written there.

06:36

But I thought I read somewhere that in C9++ the kills are indistinguishable.

Dunno maybe based decided to let us know

In any case, it give us more info.

06:38

gives*

yep

mrawry was suspecting me for even correcting my typos by editing.

06:40

lol it's funny actually.

I haven't been fixing them for that exact reason

06:40

Doesn't look too good for those looking back

You're right.

06:41

But the person I was talking to, knows that those were just typos.

So do you personally think Mrawry is trying to get you killed because they are evil?

Lowkey, yes.

06:44

I think I can even go to the length of saying that they attempted a shitpush on me.

06:44

They started by saying that it was a mere reaction test.

06:44

But they're still on me.

06:45

And what's funny is that they didn't care to state the inferences they made on seeing my reaction.

Fairypost wrote yesterday how mrawry's conduct differed from the time she was mafia, but I wasn't there for that so it doesn't really help me much.

They're still dragging the same reads without any developments.

06:45

Well, yeah, I saw that too.

06:46

Many people are trying to speculate particularly considering peoples' behavior in previous games.

06:47

I don't know how rigid their playstyles are.

06:47

But I'd say that character development certainly exists.

I was there for that game and rawry is certainly more townie than last time that's for sure but im not gonna say that confirms her more so that there's been a very noticeable change from last game where they were evil

06:50

And tbh why wouldn't rawry have continued to push on me instead

06:50

I'd say i was pretty easy lynch to push

If mrawry is an evil, then it was kinda a reckless shitpush. If they are townie, then they have paved way to condemnation for either or both of us.

even now

06:51

Thing is

If one of us gets lynched today, people are naturally going to suspect the other or maybe not.

06:52

It should go that way though.

i was mostly untrustworthy cuz yknow nobody recognized how cute i am

so why would rawry just stop the push on me just because i was defending myself,there wasn't anyone else to say let's not go for mih until i suggested the no lynch as the better option

06:53

It would be weird to just switch to someone else wouldn't it

Not if one finds a better scapegoat.

and especially because once the whole no lynch started rawry still pushed for a lynch ,i think if she were evil she would've went with the no lynch

MIH

and especially because once the whole no lynch started rawry still pushed for a lynch ,i think if she were evil she would've went with the no lynch

I'll have to agree with that one. It's all WIFOM though. I depends on how bold mrawry is as a mafia. Not everyone is as cunning as you bestie.

That's true

06:55

hmm

06:56

Idk if there's a lot of people as bold as me

But then how switching to no lynch from Kokichi makes me scum?

06:57

And there were other people like meowy who provided little to no reasoning for their votes on Kokichi.

Imo the no lynch vote should atleast be discussed because of the jimmy hammer and the fact that 2 evils were on it

But they picked the one who bothered to explain it.

06:59

I was one of the first person to vote Kokichi and literally, the first person to vote no lynch.

You,Me ,Jimmy ,Musical, Gamecube could ve went with the no lynch since sam did .However out of these i do trust gamecube since they've backed me up a lot and they feel very townie to me and myself cuz i would never be mafia omh

06:59

Now out of these

07:00

I believe Jimmy is mafia and im almost 100% sure on it

07:00

i could be wrong but there's just too much that's weird about Jimmy Imo

Btw, just one minor detail, for the sake of completeness, do you care to explain how the occurance of 2 scums on no lynch indicates that there are more scums in there?

I doubt only one of them would go for it without getting the others to vote on it and perhaps even hammer it

MIH

i could be wrong but there's just too much that's weird about Jimmy Imo

Well, since, we were lucky night 1, we can afford to lynch even if it's a townie I suppose.

They probably thought it was safer to do the no lynch instead of going and accusing someone

Fire and sam is already out. Jimmy is sus for obvious reasons. Now, what do you think of musicalfoxes?

07:04

I haven't had any direct interaction with them yet.

I've had the start of the day with them

MIH

They probably thought it was safer to do the no lynch instead of going and accusing someone

And others voters on no lynch are me and Gamecube. Everyone, including myself, believes gamecube is townie.

and they've commented a bit

07:05

now

karcin

And others voters on no lynch are me and Gamecube. Everyone, including myself, believes gamecube is townie.

wrong tag

karcin

Fire and sam is already out. Jimmy is sus for obvious reasons. Now, what do you think of musicalfoxes?

I wanted to tag this

I can't really go ahead and say musical is townie,I've had fun talking to them but they didn't do much besides point some stuff out

Just trying to blend in.

I mean it could be

But I guess they said it's their first game?

I don't remember if they've mentioned it or not but I haven't seen them before

07:08

so im assuming they're also new

07:09

Hmm

07:09

we haven't heard from zach and Kokichi

07:09

and Sylvie

07:10

if they don't claim rbed i guess we can rule it out

rbed?

Yeah its a possibility mafia has a roleblocker

07:11

If we rule it out however then most likely mafia just has 1 more goon or something

07:13

If we could rule out rb that would make the vanilla claims a bit more possible too

karcin

And here, let me tell how unreliable their reads one me are. 1) "they seemed over eager to get through D1" Well, I really was for several reasons. First, I was feeling everyone was overanalyzing things. Second, I kept uttering that I was eager for night to start and also voting no-one to bait mafia into thinking that I've a night action and I would rather rely on my night action instead of randomly lynching on day 1. Third, and what about yourself, mrawry? I was eager for Day 1 to end but you, you were so keen on for getting a lynch on day 1, which is clearly more scummy, As @musicalfoxes rightly pointed out, " i've just found in these games that those willing to kill too early are bad guys trying to cull the herd." mrawry was so ready to condemn Jimmy but they completely disregarded the fact that town majority matters! Even if it's vanllia town, it still matters! Also, as I said yesterday, mafias generally try to get a bandwagon on townies which are afk and coasty because everyone susses afk townies. So, it's just a really convenient move for mafia to make on Day1. They'll get a townie killed at day lynch, it's a FREE KILL FOR THEM!! And so, my point is, being eager to lynch somebody on day 1 is more scummy than being eager for the day to end. 2" they were on kokichi’s wagon (zilch, fire, meowy) then jumped right on no lynch wagon when they had 1 vote from me." Now here, it's really funny if you'll see that they've listed many reasons for suspecting them but they haven't explained how these points mean that I'm scum. All they said was, "it was bit off or weird."

By the way I think we all know no lynch d1 is bad, so regarding your 1. I don’t understand. Fir town to win they have to kill all mafia, and no lynch = no maf kill simple as that, and gives maf a free kill at night 1

Wdym gives maf a free kill at night 1?

Meowy is saying that if we don't kill first they will

Maf night has 0 chance of killing a mafia

07:14

Always town

MIH

Meowy is saying that if we don't kill first they will

If we kill a townie first day, they'll get two free kills.

In the end it was gamble worth taking since maf and sk could hit eachother and we didn't risk losing a town

07:14

and jt did work out!

karcin

If we kill a townie first day, they'll get two free kills.

This was my point all along.

So that’s a risk we should take

Imo we shouldn't

Because to win is to kill mafia

07:15

Assuming lynching starting day 1 and maf always kill 1 at night (excluding SK) Day 1 chance of killing a scum via lynching is 3/13 (23%) Day 2 chance of killing a scum via lynching is 3/11 (27%)…etc Versus no lynch day 1 Day 1 chance of killing a scum via lynching is (0%) Day 2 chance of killing a scum via lynching is 3/12 (25%)…etc

Meowy

By the way I think we all know no lynch d1 is bad, so regarding your 1. I don’t understand. Fir town to win they have to kill all mafia, and no lynch = no maf kill simple as that, and gives maf a free kill at night 1

You think no lynch on day1 is bad? So, you still want to vote Kokichi since you didn't change your vote?

Yep

07:16

Also, without knowing there is a SK d1

07:16

Since we didn’t have the night flip yet

07:16

Now the question is: is the trade off worth it to kill a town in the process. For scum to win, they need to lower the town players to 3. Day1 mislynch/night 1 kill= 3 scums/8 towns Day 2 mislynch/night 2 kill= 3 scums/6 towns Day 3= 3 scums/4 towns Day 4 mislynch = lose without scum having to kill night 4 Versus no lynch day 1 Day no lynch/night 1 kill= 3 scums/9 towns Day 2 mislynch/night 2 kill= 3/7 Day 3= 3/5 Day 4 mislynch = lose with scum night 4 kill

07:17

It’s the same

07:17

So we should’ve lynched d1

I think MIH explained it best yesterday when he said that lynching day 1 is risky since there could have been 3 town deaths in one day. What we got was the best case scenario, things could have been much worse.

Doesn’t matter mathematically it’s smarter to lynch

Yeah but i was willing to gamble

07:19

sorry im addicted

07:19

But it did help us out

Maybe that's true but the only person I would have lynched yesterday would have been Jimmy, wasn't willing to do anyone else.

Exactly

07:19

Had we lynched jimmy maybe we would've killed another maf but we can just lynch jimmy today

Meowy

Now the question is: is the trade off worth it to kill a town in the process. For scum to win, they need to lower the town players to 3. Day1 mislynch/night 1 kill= 3 scums/8 towns Day 2 mislynch/night 2 kill= 3 scums/6 towns Day 3= 3 scums/4 towns Day 4 mislynch = lose without scum having to kill night 4 Versus no lynch day 1 Day no lynch/night 1 kill= 3 scums/9 towns Day 2 mislynch/night 2 kill= 3/7 Day 3= 3/5 Day 4 mislynch = lose with scum night 4 kill

Yet, you just considered one case which is the worst case scenario with mislynch on everyday. We don't know the probability on aggregate with all the cases considered. (edited)

And also UwU

(sad pussy) If we lynched our loss could have been worse than our loss if we didn't so yeah

Can’t win if no maf dies though so it’s necessary sacrifice. No lynch is simply no maf kill and free town kill. And let’s say we mislynch it also could point out whoever wagoned on the wrong target could be mafia

Sacrificing without info is most likely to get a town killed

07:23

Imagine if we had gone with the vote on me we would've lost me (so tragic and emotional)

We didn’t choose at random though

07:23

We had some d1 bad reads

But we weren't sure of them ,atleast i wasn't

07:25

i was willing to vote jimmy but there was nothing done about so the lynch stayed

07:25

Plus the no lynch vote will help us deduce some stuff today

07:26

Goooo townies

Yeah I’m personally ok with no lynch but so are the scums. Imagine you being a scum and you get to kill n1 without potentially getting random lynched day 1

07:29

Thats why scum likes no lynch

07:29

(But I’m not scum

)

Wiiiich supports my supee sexy theory right?

07:29

If scum love the sexy no lynch they'd go for it

07:30

which was evidenced by our two lovely scums who bit the dust

They also equally love mislynch though since they are sure it’s a mislynch

wich means there's probably more scum on that votr

So the wagon on a mislynch would tell us as much

07:30

Anyway I’m just defending Mrawry

07:31

Saying zilch’s #1 point is ehh

07:31

No comment on the rest

Yeah no rawry queen seems fine to me but i also wanna beeeelieeeeveee in zilch

07:32

Either way i still wanna go for Jimmy unless they claim or sumn

07:33

Wait omg

07:33

since no one has voted yet

07:33

ILL DO THE HONORS

Knowing how chaotic you like to play though I’d urge TIs to check on MIH bestie just to get rid of the possibility of you being despair. I’d totally kill someone that basically town read me (fire town reads MIH) too because omg why would I ever?

OMG

07:35

UHM

07:35

never check me its illegal

Not vote worthy but I think investigative worthy

im check immune

07:36

and visit immune

Meowy

Now the question is: is the trade off worth it to kill a town in the process. For scum to win, they need to lower the town players to 3. Day1 mislynch/night 1 kill= 3 scums/8 towns Day 2 mislynch/night 2 kill= 3 scums/6 towns Day 3= 3 scums/4 towns Day 4 mislynch = lose without scum having to kill night 4 Versus no lynch day 1 Day no lynch/night 1 kill= 3 scums/9 towns Day 2 mislynch/night 2 kill= 3/7 Day 3= 3/5 Day 4 mislynch = lose with scum night 4 kill

Consider this case with a scum lynch on day2 and no lynch on day3: Day1 mislynch/ night 1 kill = 3 scums/ 8 towns Day2 scumlynch/ night 2 kill = 2 scums/ 7 towns Day 3 nolynch/ night 3 kill = 2 scums/ 6 town Day4 mislynch/ night 4 kill = 2 scums/ 4 town Day 5 mislynch/ night 5 kill = 2 scums/ 2 towns (scum wins) Versus no lynch day 1 Day1 nolynch/ night 1 kill = 3 scums/9towns Day2 scumlynch/ night 2 kill = 2 scums/ 8 town Day3 nolynch/ night 3 kill = 2 scums/ 7 town Day4 mislynch/ night 4 kill = 2 scums/ 5 towns Day 5 mislynch/ night 5 kill = 2 scums/ 3 towns Game proceeds to extra day 6

Yes and all those check mes!! Day 1 could be reverse psychology

07:36

It’s pure chaos

You certainly didn't consider all the cases. Just considering one of the cases doesn't tell anything about the probability on aggregate.

Meowy

Yes and all those check mes!! Day 1 could be reverse psychology

I didn't want to be cheked THO YOU GASLIGHTING MAFIA ARSONIST WETEWOLLF POOP

karcin

You certainly didn't consider all the cases. Just considering one of the cases doesn't tell anything about the probability on aggregate.

Yes, but why would we no lynch x2

I stated that i shouldn't be cheked and people shouldn't waste their night on me

07:37

Im just a simple vanilla townie omg

Meowy

Yes, but why would we no lynch x2

We could if we are not sure

Again no lynch is free kill for mafia

07:37

You cannot win but surviving

Meowy

Again no lynch is free kill for mafia

mislynch is double free kill for mafia

You have to win by killing mafia

Meowy

You cannot win but surviving

You can survive one more day to prepare and win!

You can live 2-3 more days if you no lynch all game

If anyone comes to my house im shooting them

Moreover, more nights= more info for town power roles like cop.

Assuming they didn’t get killed at night, or they decided to claim

I know that in order to win the gamble, you need to place big bets like you want to win.

I love gambling

But completely disregarding caution is a fool's play.

07:40

Anyways,

Anyways

Your assertion that lynching day 1 is mathematically a better option is wrong as you didn't consider all the cases. That's what I wanted to prove.

I sus MIH bestie for now

07:41

But he’s not the only one

WHAT

It could still be a better option mathematically

ESCUXE ME

07:41

but then you need to provide complete solution

How dare you use the s slur on me

Apply Baye's Theorem and all

I litterally claimed guys im the victim

hmmm

08:30

who should i jail

Btw, don't get me wrong. I'm not against lynching on day 1. I'm open to both lynching and no-lynching. But no-lynching, if you've got no solid scum-reads on any player.

Jesus Christ another no lynch

09:12

How new is everyone to this game?

09:12

I couldn’t believe you guys did that on Day 1

09:12

It’s suboptimal play, especially in this situation

Well it worked out so whatev

… what do you mean it worked out?

09:13

It’s really bad play

Well we got a vote to look om and we didn't lose anyone

09:14

what more could you want

Mafia get to decide on the kills, which don’t usually help us deduce

09:14

To look om? What do you mean?

09:14

Oh, I want to play properly

09:15

This is actually ridiculous

To look on

What do you mean?

we now know that 2 of the no lynch voters were scum,add to the fact that mafia would also benefit from a no lynch its obvious atleast one of the other scummy maf people voted the no lynch

09:16

Its like so litterally obvious

People clearly aren’t playing the game properly, making reads, or putting us in a position to make reads

09:16

Why are we even playing

09:17

Well that’s obvious

wdym they are

Why do it again

09:17

Today

We're not gonna do it again

09:17

zilch was trying to porve something to meowy or whatever

Omg I misread

09:17

Thank god

i wanna vote JIMMY

I wanna vote zilch actually

karcin

Your assertion that lynching day 1 is mathematically a better option is wrong as you didn't consider all the cases. That's what I wanted to prove.

Advocating for no lunches

09:19

On top of everything we already discussed

He was just trying to be nerd fairy omg not you accusing the math losers

No lunches is intermittent fasting

Hahahha no lunches

Zilch advocates for starvation

I’m a nerd, that’s why I’m arguing for the optimal play

Wow fairy came out swinging I don’t remember you being so mean

09:20

But I agree

Yeah hahahha

09:20

I thought everyone no voted again

09:21

I was B E S I D E myself

09:21

But I misread yesterday’s votes as today

09:21

Uhm you know whag

09:21

don't make me

09:21

say the f word

I didn’t care when you broke your arm

WHAT

09:22

HOW DARE YOU

THAT'S IT

09:22

you little f

09:22

f

09:22

f

09:22

fungus

09:22

amkng us

09:22

vde8dbx

09:23

guys i wanna confess

The top is Ward, the bottom is me lol

im actually the last mafia

09:23

im so sorry

MIH cop will check you tonight I think

NO

09:23

NO

09:23

OUT OF MY HOUSE

09:23

OUT

09:24

IM GONNA SHOOOT

Or last night in which case you’re town unless cop hasn’t revealed the check

don't check me

09:24

its gonna show up as mafia

Eh at least mafia probably won’t kill you, you’re too easy to mislynch if you’re town

Ofc maf won't kill me im mafia

09:27

I just voted for zilch

same

Gamecube

I think MIH explained it best yesterday when he said that lynching day 1 is risky since there could have been 3 town deaths in one day. What we got was the best case scenario, things could have been much worse.

TWO NON TOWNIES DIED

yeah

09:30

Aren't i amazing?

Lol what

No lynch got us this so uh yeah im amazing and should be praised

09:33

#WAP

I think @karcin is the best vote. 1. he advocated for a suboptimal no lynch two days in a row, anti-town 2. Two scum were also no lynch votes 3. Full stop meta This is from @Rawry (I am townreading them so far): ok so I was sus on zilch yesterday because: 1) they seemed overly eager to get through D1 2) they were on kokichi’s wagon (zilch, fire, meowy) then jumped right on no lynch wagon when they had 1 vote from me 3) they claim they made a “mistake” and won’t say what the mistake was Zilch partner equity: Wouldn’t be a team with @Meowy or @Rawry Could have PE with Sam

09:39

Zilch, defend yourself pla

09:39

Please

He did

09:40

Above

09:40

wait did you see it

Omg I don’t like that defence at all

omg you should fight

Yeah I don’t mind, I will vote

09:43

Mafia is about social reads, caution is futile and makes for bad games

09:44

You get a couple of mislynches but you make sure to do “info kills”… analyse partner equity and all that

09:44

If you leave all the kills to mafia then all the sus townies are taken to the end

09:46

As town you want a say in who will be left - vote out susses, partnerships, SILENT PLAYERS because they’re anti town as they can’t be read easily and don’t progress the game

09:46

People are so scared of mislynches but this is mafia

09:47

Not wanting to vote is typically indicative of someone who is cautious or scared which tends to be mafia as they don’t wanna tread on people’s toes and drawn attention to themselves

yeah that's why i suggested it

Fairy Boots

TWO NON TOWNIES DIED

Isn't that a good thing?

Yes but someone said “imagine if we had killed three townies yesterday instead of just two”

Personally I was for lynching Jimmy yesterday but people didn't seem for it aside from MIH who only wanted to do it if everyone else wanted to.

Yeah

10:00

I wasn't against lynching but the lynches that were brought up i wasn't too sure of

Fairy Boots

Omg I don’t like that defence at all

I'd like to hear why

10:07

Like I said yesterday I don't have a verdict on Zilch's guilt yet so I'd like to see why you don't like it.

@Gamecube do you have reads on anyone?

10:09

Well the defence was a whole lot of text but little substance. They are advocating for suboptimal play and thus far not townreading the same people that I am. I have reasons to sus them which I posted earlier

Nothing too crazy, I have an idea into who the townies are, I don't trust Jimmy, Zilch I'm unsuren about, and then there's a few people who have not talked nearly enough for me to form an opinion.

karcin

Your assertion that lynching day 1 is mathematically a better option is wrong as you didn't consider all the cases. That's what I wanted to prove.

Btw optimal play is about making decisions that are advantageous most of the time… if you play optimally you will win more than you lose… it isn’t concerned with the few exceptions

Gamecube

Nothing too crazy, I have an idea into who the townies are, I don't trust Jimmy, Zilch I'm unsuren about, and then there's a few people who have not talked nearly enough for me to form an opinion.

Ok yeah, I can understand the jimmy thing

10:12

This is also why voting out non-talkers is important, they make it hard for town to win, especially late game

10:12

They don’t talk enough for you to form an opinion, so you go to the end with less info

10:13

Punishing people for not playing or contributing is important, it creates a better mafia culture

10:13

If you wanna play you gotta play

10:13

No coasting

10:13

Zilch was trying to talk us out of voting the inactives yesterday. What they said made sense but if Jimmy really is evil then that seems suspicious.

AGAIN that is SUCH SUBOPTIMAL PLAY

10:14

Also, if we vote zilch and they’re mafia we just go for the inscribed

10:14

Inactives

10:14

This is why I linked them with Sam, Sam was quite inactive yesterday

10:15

The strat is so anti-town that I think it’s gotta be scummy at this point

Can mafia interact in the chat during the day time?

Not usually

10:16

@ForeverBel can mafia talk in maf chat during the day?

10:16

I didn’t see anything about it so I assume not

It is specified in the information, they can.

Thanks

no problem!

When mafia can chat between each other, it's hard to maintain two conversations at once.

10:19

Zilch was among those who talked the most the first day along myself and MIH.

During the day did you message anyone else?

10:20

Like DM a friend, or talk to other people?

I asked and it wasn't allowed so I didn't dm anybody

No like outside of the game

10:21

Did you have any other conversations yesterday apart from ma10 chat?

Oh not in this server no

Well regardless

10:22

It’s not that hard to have more than one conversation in a day

10:22

People even play two mafia games at once

10:22

So I like the idea, but I think it’s pretty NAI

That's true I'm mostly speaking from experience with shorter games

Plus Day 1 mafia chat is prolly pretty dead

10:23

Yeah it’s a 48 hour game as well

10:23

Plenty of time for both

So you suspect Jimmy and Zilch were working with Sam correct?

Hmmm I dunno about Jimmy’s PE with Sam I need to read over it again

10:24

Because they are friends outside of the game

10:24

And jimmy only knows Sam

10:25

I’m still ok with the vote

10:25

Especially if people think zilch is townie, I haven’t played with them before

I haven't played with anyone so I can't help there

This is my second game so my data isn’t great

Doesn't mean much but do we know if Zilch ever claimed?

But considering that Sam and mrawry are both playing so differently

10:26

One game might mean a lot here

10:26

If zilch claimed what?

Anything

PR?

Not sure what that means

karcin

Moreover, more nights= more info for town power roles like cop.

This is as close as they got I think

10:27

PR is power role

10:27

It means townie role like cop or doctor

I see

10:27

I don't think anybody has claimed those roles yet

I hope not

10:28

So we have one Maf down but we don’t know how many mafia we have

Yeah it's not the best thing for doctor to do unless they have a useful investigation.

10:29

People shot around the number 2 or 3 for Mafia

10:29

Can't see it being more than 3

Yes so 1-2 mafia are left it seems

Gamecube

Yeah it's not the best thing for doctor to do unless they have a useful investigation.

Yeah they don’t investigate, they save. If they save someone then they could claim or not

10:36

Anyways, see everyone later, I’m off for now

I'm mixing my tiles up what I wrote was meant for the I investigative role

10:40

Roles*

I think we should just people who don't trust me cuz that's like the scummiest you could do

10:42

just lynch*

10:42

Lynch them all!

When we lynch are we shown their role?

Gamecube

When we lynch are we shown their role?

yes! Roles will flip on death regardless of what caused the death.

Okay im gonna put this out there

11:07

Wait actually

11:07

hmm

11:07

nvm i don't wanna spoil the surprise

Oh boy I love suprises

okay ill tell y'all why not

11:09

so like

11:09

i lied about my role

11:10

i know i know i was basically confirmed maf how could i lie?!

11:10

Does anyone wanna guess my actual role

11:12

No one

11:12

wow okay then i guess no one wants to know

11:16

UGH

11:16

You're MIHfia I already know

Honestly Discord Mihfia

so...we are all talking in the same area and i don't know how to contribute. say i could kill someone...do we have any despair suspicions?

12:12

i feel like i'm a newb and i'm revealing too much about myself but idk how else to garner information lol

So far Jimmy is suspected as mafia, Zilch is suspected by some and Mrawry is suspected by Zilch. I think that's about everything.

12:13

I know Fairy Boots and Mrawry suspect Zilch, bot sure about anyone else

ok cool.

musicalfoxes

so...we are all talking in the same area and i don't know how to contribute. say i could kill someone...do we have any despair suspicions?

you can help by making reads

12:36

who do you think is sus/town?

i am honestly not sure. this is my first game and i thought we should go no lynch on day 1 as well because i thought the more townies to defend later in game, the better. but the commenters above are saying that's not best practice.

12:52

i've not played this, but ive played other social discovery games and in my experience, the most blood thirsty early are bad guys trying to lower the numbers in their favor, but this game could be different.

12:52

i haven't talked as much just because i don't know what to say, so i don't know if i can really blame the other less-talkers because maybe they're experiencing the same thing.

We can talk broadly about PRs and PR actions but don’t reveal roles unless you have info or are getting lynched

12:57

In mafia no lynches are suboptimal for town, unless it’s late game with no clear susses and a mafia kill would help deduction

12:58

When town doesn’t vote, mafia gets to decide all the kills, which doesn’t help us at all

12:59

It’s a social reads game and typically we go with no info

12:59

You make social reads

12:59

An experienced lobby would never do a no kill day 1

I just caught up on Zilch’s defense and it feels contradictory. Their explanation for voting no lynch on D1 was that we were “overanalyzing” but as Fairy said that’s what a social deduction game is? We win by making reads, gathering information, and lynching scums. Looking at their defense they seem to be pushing the idea that we shouldn’t lynch unless we have concrete evidence, which we may or may not ever get as we don’t know what roles were rolled at this point in time. Also, for someone so against “overanalyzing” the example they gave with the 2 no lynches to meowy was pretty specific. That all said, mind providing us with your updated reads? Yesterday you thought Mih and Kokichi were scummy and Gamecube and Fire was towny. (you say my reads were shitty, but you also thought Fire was town so

‍♀️)

In mafia you make deductions based on tone, how people interact with each other (find those with “partner equity” or people who seem to be on opposite teams), based on how people vote and who they vote for

13:02

There are lots of general patterns, and don’t be afraid of getting it wrong

13:02

You also vote players who have “anti town” play - eg no talkers and no voters

on a separate note, I do want to hear from the non-talkers today with their reads @Reb @𝕋𝕙𝕖𝔹𝕞𝕚𝕞𝕪 @BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic @Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi)

Since they don’t progress the game anyway

13:03

Yeahhhh @Rawry we are in the same world atm

13:03

That’s another thing, if someone shares your reads or approach that’s a few points in the townie basket

guh. i guess right now my guess is zilch. he's had a back and forth with mihary, and they both have good points, but zilch is going to a lot more lengths to prove their innocence. i dont feel as much of a need to explain myself because i am townie.

The mafia subreddit apparently has lots of info and tips

ooh

13:10

General advice: doctor should save someone who is progressing the game and being townread as they are a top mafia hit; cop should check the people being sussed the most as even a clear will be useful (if a one shot cop usually save your check til night 3 to gather most info unless you think you’re getting killed); vigi should also typically wait until night 3 or until the cop outs to gather most info, shoot earlier if majority of town is telling you to shoot earlier or if you think you’ll die

13:11

Lol that’s so not true

13:11

If you have reason to believe that people have low range… as in play the same play style as VT, mafia or PR then it’s a fair vote

13:12

Last game in here me and an old friend joined together, knew by day 1 that we were both town, they voted him anyway after I died

13:12

He also always knows when I am mafia

13:13

Getting an accurate read on someone the more you interact with them is social deduction 102

13:13

*101

13:13

Damn no editing spelling mistakes lol

13:14

Masons and Roleblocker… Roleblocker has same advice as cop, and masons just try to defend each other whilst not being too obvious

Or just do what i do

(Could you guys like…Stop talking so much?)

13:22

(Its very hard to get reads when Yall speak too much$

oh hey sylvie

13:22

no no speaking much is good

(Literally. I had gotten 450 Messages

that’s how we make reads

(Cant read any)

All you have to know is im confirmed

(So Ive read like…2%)

13:23

(I saw how MIH firned was Suspicious)

13:23

(But I think its Actually the accusers)

What

Sylvie what was your role last game?

(Or one of the MIH)

Fairy Boots

Sylvie what was your role last game?

I think Jester?)

13:23

(My roles here were uhh)

Hahah nah the Ma9

MIH

Or just do what i do

join the top wagon? I thought you and zilch were besties

Where you were sussed and got voted

(Coven Leader, Innocent, Jester)

13:24

(I may be forgetting a game tho$

Rawry

join the top wagon? I thought you and zilch were besties

Ofc we are that's why im voting

(Am I forgetting one?)

13:24

(Im probably forgetting one)

Pretty sure you were inno last game I played with you

MIH

Ofc we are that's why im voting

you were so sure a couple hours ago they were town lol

And I scumread you so hard lol

Rawry

you were so sure a couple hours ago they were town lol

Omg you're so right

(Yeah I was)

13:24

(It was uh)

13:24

(Coven, Godfather, Inoocent, Jester)

(Why the parentheses)

(And now)

BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic

(I may be forgetting a game tho$

you’re forgetting the mentor one lol when you were godfather

Fairy Boots

(Why the parentheses)

(BECAUSE YOUR NOT SPEAKING TO MY CHARACTER YOUR SPEAKING TO ME)

13:25

(Speaking of.)

Hey hi hello what is going on why am i pinged

(No more information from Bee any more. Only leaf)

Omg hahahhaha sylvie ❤️

13:25

Ur quiet Zach we need content

Sorry im not a youtuber to make good content

Sylvie suggested that they were Tenko

Reb

Sorry im not a youtuber to make good content

wheezes at that shit joke

13:26

But yeah i aint got shit to add so

Uh well

“Where the heck is everyone? Are you all moving or Is this city just Huge…”

Have you read the game

13:26

Gotta have some thoughts right?

"I haven't moved at all"

........maybe i read the game

13:27

Wasn’t Zach really engaged in the game last time

13:27

no

Me? Engaged at a game?

13:27

Bitch please

13:27

lmao

WHTA

13:28

WHAT

(I just found some Evidence.)

YOU TRAITOR

13:28

I THOUGHT WE WERE BFFS

13:28

Guess not.

13:28

I DON'T WANNA DIE OMG

13:28

AAAAAAAAAAA

“Hey! Im not trying to choose sides! There’s just somethings I saw you say that dont line up!”

So MIH is obviously trying to get sussed. They could be trolling town or openwolfing

"What. "

“Also, Are you the Ultimate Actor or something?”

well, if you dont mind im just gonna go back to my usual "damn"s

Oh you little twiddling sussy poopy

LMAO

13:29

Damn

you think im kokichi

Damn

13:29

Woah

no reads huh zach

Damn

damn

…

‍♀️

13:30

Damn

WELL UNLIKE ANYONE ELSE HERE I'VE ALREADY CLAIMED

13:30

go ahead and check me huh

Omg MIH

oh wait you can't

Are you fucking godfather

Rawry

no reads huh zach

not good at em anyways so ¯\(ツ)\/¯

Yeah im fucking the godfatger

That’s what I’ve been saying lmao

Godfather wanna get checked

mih so eager to get checked

MIH

WELL UNLIKE ANYONE ELSE HERE I'VE ALREADY CLAIMED

“You actually claimed 2 roles.”

Godfather could act sus to get checked and cleared

“Thats why Im suspicious of you!”

BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic

“You actually claimed 2 roles.”

"WHAT DID I CLAIM"

13:31

ive claimed vanilla townie since yesterday

13:31

since the literal start

13:31

How dare you accuse me omg

Damn

Lmao

WHAT

13:31

Hahahaha

Damn

amazing

Yeah guys im jailor

Ok @Rawry if me or you die remember that we called MIH the godfather

Yeah

Checkmate MIH now you die if we die

Im killing you tonight

13:33

We're going down baby boo

Major wifom play

Wait

13:33

Wait I got confused

13:33

Shoot

Because if we die it’s too obvious a set up but that’s exactly why the kill would happen

Its still there

13:33

I just Put it in the wrong chat))

Gamecube look what theyre doing to me

13:34

sylvie pulling a zilch here lmao

(Wdym Zilch?)

did you make a “mistake” too

Godfather accusations on you is nothing new

True

Omg MIH why you cuddling up with GameCube

You got me

Rawry

did you make a “mistake” too

(Nah, My mistake was putting it in the wrong chat)

I was accused of being mafia since like i started typing so no big news

in the MAFIA chat

oh are...are we supposed to be talking in character

That’s because you want to act sus

because...i'm into that

(Foxes, its yur choice)

So I’m trying to figure out why you would want to act sus because if you’re town it’s just confusing for us

13:35

There’s no jester

“Its a good thing we have these recorders…Wait do we get food at all?!”

Godfather makes sense

Its pretty obvious what i am omg

13:36

Im vanilla townie

Damn

duh doy

MIH

Im vanilla townie

(So yiur claiming Townie AND Jailor.$

Bruh the jailor was a joke

Damn.

"alright, scum, announce yourself."

"let's get this over with."

13:36

"WHO IS IT"

Lets kill fairy tonight

13:36

oops

13:36

sorry

13:36

wrong chat

So far it’s just MIH claiming scum

Omggggggg

musicalfoxes

"WHO IS IT"

️

MIH

13:37

OMG

L.O.L

Gamecube

️

'i'm going to shit your fucking pants'

MIH and GameCube major mafia PE

Damn

Yeah

13:37

Wait

13:37

omg

13:37

get vigi to shoot me

musicalfoxes

"WHO IS IT"

“I like this one. Straight to the Point” “SAY WHO YOU ARE SO I CAN SNAP YOUR LEGS!”

musicalfoxes

'i'm going to shit your fucking pants'

Your going to shit my pants? How does that work

"YES"

Get vigi to shoot me come one lets see if i live

Actually that isn’t a bad idea MIH

if there's a vigi take me out

"are you filth

13:38

"

Excited to see this scientific breakthrough

(Just to make sure, Do we know the roles?)

"does someone need to die"

Nah it could be anything

Wait wait

(Pretty sure I saw someone say there isnt Jester so.)

"this town needs to be cleansed and i am the enema of justice"

there’s no jester here lol

We knows there’s a serial killer and a goon, so that limits things a little

ok if there's no jester then i have no idea what mih is

Yep

Damn

Wait actually if the vigi kills they'll die afterwards

which i assume, was their strat

musicalfoxes

ok if there's no jester then i have no idea what mih is

(A dumbass)

BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic

(A dumbass)

yes

mih is anti town anti scum lmao

Troll town or godfather

oh there's a troll?

13:39

ok now i know

Im a troll under the bridge

Ttroll

13:39

they meant Ttroll

13:39

I think

13:39

..wait

They are pro scum if town, anti town if town

nevermind

13:39

im stupud

13:39

stupud

13:40

STUPID

If scum it’s either way

FU-

yeah no editing is a bastard

(I saw we vote them Either way. They’re pretty annoying and probably have a Not Helpful role so.)

Trolling like fishing not the kind under a bridge

Why am i anti town omg i said my role,voted and told y'all my reads

I’m so old

13:40

I’m too old to know this

Damn

Ok so the one thing with MIH is that they did this to me last game

okay. is there any role that benefits by getting voted?

And I had to do a 180 at the end

no

where is the list of all the roles in this game?

In #ma10-info

I told you all my role and character

There’s a wiki

musicalfoxes

where is the list of all the roles in this game?

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=C9%2B%2B

The host rolls dice

Damn

So we can deduce a little because we know there’s goon and serial killer

musicalfoxes

"this town needs to be cleansed and i am the enema of justice"

“Hey do you wanna meet up? You seem trustworthy and I feel like our allyship can be useful!”

:(

BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic

“Hey do you wanna meet up? You seem trustworthy and I feel like our allyship can be useful!”

"i don't think we're allowed :/"

The only thing we can say MIH is, is not PR

Im not pr im vanilla

"someone asked earlier and said townies can't talk to each other privately"

MIH has only acted weird during periods where we were not talking about anything really important. When we're talking about theories or suspicions MIH has been pretty.

aww

“Ill try and see myself!”

i think mih is pretty too

If PR it’s fascinating because mafia won’t kill you… but you’d have to out because town prolly won’t townread you

Gamecube

MIH has only acted weird during periods where we were not talking about anything really important. When we're talking about theories or suspicions MIH has been pretty.

Pretty

mih is beautiful

BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic

“Ill try and see myself!”

"yee, yee, yee"

Gamecube

MIH has only acted weird during periods where we were not talking about anything really important. When we're talking about theories or suspicions MIH has been pretty.

He's been pretty 8/8 - IGN

7.8 too much MIH

lol

Awww MIH is pretty

honestly

13:43

Look the thing is

Damn

Solid 9, but my 10 ❤️

13:43

Damn

13:43

I cant really be bothered enough to give a rating so

13:43

it's a rate/10

5/7 stars

take that as you will

Do you guys genuinely believe im evil?

to me mih is a 6/9

Damn

musicalfoxes

to me mih is a 6/9

Why are you sus.

13:44

Like, not scum sus

MIH

Do you guys genuinely believe im evil?

what other reason would you have to promote chaos?

but down bad sus

musicalfoxes

what other reason would you have to promote chaos?

Yep

musicalfoxes

what other reason would you have to promote chaos?

I can't say cuz it kinda ruins it

damn

Reb

Why are you sus.

don't hate me because i'm beautiful

MIH

I can't say cuz it kinda ruins it

(That makes you more suspicious)

musicalfoxes

don't hate me because i'm beautiful

I didnt say I hate you, I only asked why are you diwn bad

13:45

13:45

Down bad**

Reb

I didnt say I hate you, I only asked why are you diwn bad

down bad...is that slang?

13:45

i am old

Yes

13:45

it is

I’m old too lmao

get with the times

is it good slang or bad slang

smh

like

And like bestie gamecube pointed out i have aided in almost all of the discussions here and have told you all my reads

damn girl your down bad

MIH

And like bestie gamecube pointed out i have aided in almost all of the discussions here and have told you all my reads

(Yeah.)

its not like im always like thos

Ngl I think @musicalfoxes is pretty townie

(Scums do that)

down bad = 6/9 type of down bad

13:46

or 'damn girl...

ur down bad"

Wow okay Sylvie being a hater

13:46

(Literally. The same game I was a Medusa on anothrr server, My teammate Did that.)

Sylvie biggest hater

if puns are my crime i will hang with a smile

BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic

(Literally. The same game I was a Medusa on anothrr server, My teammate Did that.)

Ye

yeah you'd need to be

13:46

PUNished

musicalfoxes

if puns are my crime i will hang with a smile

there are ppl on this server that will sus you for a bad pun

okay so what role would benefit by causing confusion, that's the question.

Damn

(Only Jester?)

Im not causing confusion cuz of my role

musicalfoxes

okay so what role would benefit by causing confusion, that's the question.

(Any Fucking Scum role?)

BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic

(Any Fucking Scum role?)

true but then why do it so blatantly

13:47

wups wrong chat teehee

Damn

right scum should be down 1

theyre baiting us for some reason

and what confusion am i causing anyway wow oh no i said im mafia that's clearly chaotic they're just jokes

MIH

Im not causing confusion cuz of my role

MIH if everyone is confused by your role then you are ❤️

so if anything with sk being gone

I was under the impression it was a strategy not to get mafia killed

maf would play more “under the radar”

but...don't mafia know who other mafia are?

(Maybe its a Revenge kinda symptom? Like..)

there's no need to juke the mafia, they already know.

(Get Voted out and something happens?)

Damn

Gamecube

I was under the impression it was a strategy not to get mafia killed

there’s no role like that here

(Vengeful?)

Rawry

maf would play more “under the radar”

Open wolfing is a tried and true strat, especially if people expect mafia to go under the radar

Why is my role genuinely being discussed

Rawry

there’s no role like that here

Hence why I said strategy

MIH

Why is my role genuinely being discussed

(Say your damn role or we’ll keep going.)

MIH

Why is my role genuinely being discussed

because you've been shedding raw chaotic energy all game and it's just now catching up with you lol

(Claim it nerd)

Yeeee

Im Vanilla Townie,Angie Yonaga

MIH

Im Vanilla Townie,Angie Yonaga

(AND YOU SAID YOU WERE JAILOR TOO)

13:49

(NIEN)

IT WAS IN GENERAL

13:49

A JOKE

13:49

are you serious

13:49

there's not even a jailor in this rolelist

sylvie is pushing hard ngl

what god do you worship

13:49

quick

13:49

no googling

either she didn’t read

13:50

atua

13:50

anyways

MIH

Dw they'll go after me cuz im jailor

FUCK OFF NO)

Get Mafia To Love You With This One Weird Tip!

Damn

1. Act like MIH

not answering my question, mih mafia confirmed.

Wow

musicalfoxes

what god do you worship

Amogus

musicalfoxes

not answering my question, mih mafia confirmed.

am I clear

13:50

I answered lol

Damn

incorrect

BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic

FUCK OFF NO)

Ooh well still there's no jailor i was clearly memeing

If im get sussed and voted out for Putting a Single All caps sentence

13:51

Im fucking Not letting someone else get away with it

You're not suspicious You're just confused❤️

Get your sad heart outta here

Ok so I am not voting MIH today… 1. Too easy to target 2. I feel targeting the easy susboi means people are intentionally voting away from zilch which makes me a bit more confident in the zilch read

hmm...actually "During Chapter 3, she forms the Student Council to combat the killing game, while ultimately taking away most rights of her fellow students, making her a minor antagonist in the chapter. "

13:52

she does exude chaos energy...

I would need compelling arguments to vote MIH over zilch

Same

Damn

Lmao

musicalfoxes

hmm...actually "During Chapter 3, she forms the Student Council to combat the killing game, while ultimately taking away most rights of her fellow students, making her a minor antagonist in the chapter. "

Not in quotation marks not rp

You guyses make me laugh

oh sorry.

If it was then all of our works wont exist

I think we should just go with the Zilch vote

Who says Roles irp?

13:52

Thats right noone

13:52

Also Angie doesnt use Emojis

Since when?

I dont know you think Ive played the games?

tryharding over rp text for it not being 100% accurate to the character

13:53

yeesh

Im obsessed

13:53

Not THAT obsessed

sure looks like it, boss

mih did get the god wrong

Hey

13:54

You wanted reads

13:54

I gave you reads

oh

13:54

wow

What do you want from me?

im literally just realizing that was a meme

To suck ya-

i...

Wait can I say that?

Bruh i thought you were asking me not angie

amongus does actually kind of sound like a god name

Doesn't it?

ye

No I cannot

'and so we ask amongus, our heavenly father, to protect us from the sus and the maf'

I've played all the dr games

but wouldn't you have gotten your god name through your profile? why didn't you just say the real god name?

13:55

then you wouldve instantly cleared yourself.

Damn

Are you seriou

i AM seriou

im having a stroke this discussion has been amazing

its a pretty big part of her character

Damn

If i were to rp i would use " "

Not sure that's a worthwhile reason to sus someone lol

well idk what else to do lol

Exactly

im sniffing out clues ok

I dont know who my character is so thats why i cant rp as em

although maybe gamecube is also sus

¯\(ツ)\/¯ (edited)

MIH

If i were to rp i would use " "

AND YA FRUCKS ARE SAYING IM BEING TOO CRITICAL

hmmmmmmm

LOOK AT THAT

If you want to sus out clues you need to investigate why MIH didn't reply with the correct god

BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic

AND YA FRUCKS ARE SAYING IM BEING TOO CRITICAL

you are overanalizying rp text

No because at this point you might as well check and shoot me just to see how wrong y'all are about me

13:58

Wait

13:58

why don't we just

13:58

lynch zilch and jimmy and then just lynch me too

Haha no

Damn

i don't really mind dying if there's 1 maf left

Reb

you are overanalizying rp text

Well then what should I say hm?

13:59

Oh

nah

Look at you guys

13:59

Being All cool and all

if there’s a vig shoot mih

I say we No vote!

BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic

Well then what should I say hm?

You're asking the wrong guy lmao

13:59

im shit at reads

Because noone is bad in the end!

But the vig is gonna kill himself after

Yknow what(

13:59

Yeah

"this is bullshit. someone is killing people and then cowering in their homes. i demand the guilty expose themselves immediately or i'll be forced to take drastic action"

Lets play rhe wholesome baby.

..is it just me or is sylvie mad

14:00

i honestly cant tell

Vigi if you do exist prepare to die after shooting me

14:00

wait

14:00

does the vig die here

Not sure let me try

What

Yee haw

Im so sad

14:01

Litterally so sad rn

Aweee

EXCUSE ME

Why are you so sad?

NO LYNCH

Can I make you some cookies to make you feel better?

14:01

Uwu

Yeah

14:02

please

Damn.

im very very sad

Damn

Thank you

There you go! uwu

Damn

owo

Reb

Damn

Thats not famwy frwiendly! Keep your language to yourself

BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic

Thats not famwy frwiendly! Keep your language to yourself

I can swear all I f**king want

14:04

>:(

14:04

you're not my mom

(i thought no lynch was bad strat)

I couwwd befwiend uw mom…then tew hew abouwwt uw behavoiw

14:06

^w^

You don't know her

14:06

F**k off

Awe u suwwe abouwt that?

Yes.

owo

14:08

Then whats this? UwU

What's what

14:09

Its uw mom’s nuwmbew! OwO

It ain'f

14:09

ain't

14:10

you got the wrong number.

I am gowing to caww hew wight now! OwO

What a rollercoaster of a discussion

Chief. That's the wrong number.

14:12

You're calling god knows who.

Fairy Boots

Btw optimal play is about making decisions that are advantageous most of the time… if you play optimally you will win more than you lose… it isn’t concerned with the few exceptions

And how did you conclude that lynching day 1 is the optimal case? Did you list out all the cases first to disregard my case as an exception? And let's even suppose that day 1 lynch is the optimal strategy, then where were you at day 1? Why didn't you push anybody and assert everyone to vote them too? Is it because you didn't want to take accountability for it?

BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic

I say we No vote!

OMFG

Fairy Boots

I think @karcin is the best vote. 1. he advocated for a suboptimal no lynch two days in a row, anti-town 2. Two scum were also no lynch votes 3. Full stop meta This is from @Rawry (I am townreading them so far): ok so I was sus on zilch yesterday because: 1) they seemed overly eager to get through D1 2) they were on kokichi’s wagon (zilch, fire, meowy) then jumped right on no lynch wagon when they had 1 vote from me 3) they claim they made a “mistake” and won’t say what the mistake was Zilch partner equity: Wouldn’t be a team with @Meowy or @Rawry Could have PE with Sam

Most people who voted were on no lynch vote, it's no coincidence that two of them turned out to be scum. Also, more importantly, both of those scums were not teammates and they didn't know each other's identities.

karcin

And how did you conclude that lynching day 1 is the optimal case? Did you list out all the cases first to disregard my case as an exception? And let's even suppose that day 1 lynch is the optimal strategy, then where were you at day 1? Why didn't you push anybody and assert everyone to vote them too? Is it because you didn't want to take accountability for it?

I’ve played mafia for quite a while, I usually play with people who’ve played for 15 years

Fairy Boots

I think @karcin is the best vote. 1. he advocated for a suboptimal no lynch two days in a row, anti-town 2. Two scum were also no lynch votes 3. Full stop meta This is from @Rawry (I am townreading them so far): ok so I was sus on zilch yesterday because: 1) they seemed overly eager to get through D1 2) they were on kokichi’s wagon (zilch, fire, meowy) then jumped right on no lynch wagon when they had 1 vote from me 3) they claim they made a “mistake” and won’t say what the mistake was Zilch partner equity: Wouldn’t be a team with @Meowy or @Rawry Could have PE with Sam

Yeah, full stop meta. Sure!

85% success rate with the fullstop meta btw

Fairy Boots

I’ve played mafia for quite a while, I usually play with people who’ve played for 15 years

That doesn't prove it though.

Over hundreds of games

14:21

No… zilch have you played mafia much?

Yes

14:21

plenty

If you want, we can just vote for people the cop has checked

Anyways, where were you at day 1 then?

I don’t understand your perspective or argument, it flies in the face of known optimal plays

Why didn't you stop everyone from voting for no lynch?

I wasn’t here

14:22

I popped in but then missed the cut off

14:22

Didn’t see it til night

14:23

I have criticised it since I came back though because it’s suboptimal play

Fairy Boots

I wasn’t here

so who's your best read on mafia rn?

Fairy Boots

I don’t understand your perspective or argument, it flies in the face of known optimal plays

I don't understand yours either. 85% seems like a clearly exaggerated number.

Me probably

Zilch who is anti town

Fairy Boots

Zilch who is anti town

why do you trust zilch?

they said they didn't

MIH is still hard null for me. I’ve seen them do this as VT. They’re such an easy target, I’d love to know their alignment soon though and then make judgements based off that.

And even if we agree, that your strategy is optimal then it only proves one of the points that mrawry stated against me right.

ohhh, i see. you meant Zilch, who is anti town

14:24

i thought you were asking them

That’s fine zilch, I don’t like your reaction and I am still voting you

Sure, go ahead.

Nah, I listed a bunch of reasons for zilch before. And the more they talk the more scummy they sound

And I know that even if I flip as town you're gonna say that I played badly.

14:25

Doesn't matter though

That's what they'll say about me too

Well yeah you’re advocating for suboptimal plays and don’t understand how to apply maths to this game properly

14:26

Me no likey the play style

Fairy Boots

Well yeah you’re advocating for suboptimal plays and don’t understand how to apply maths to this game properly

As if you do. You're saying it from personal anecdotes, not from math's perspective.

14:26

Clearly exaggerating the 85%

MIH is confusing the town yeah, but also you give a lot of info if you’re town by how people engage with you

14:27

No I keep tables

14:27

Of general tells and patterns

14:27

It’s 83% or something I think

14:27

It be real

Care to provide a reference?

I’m on my phone but I can show you my tables later

Sure

Just excel sheets

14:28

Might actually switch to Sylvie that’s unreal

14:28

“No vote” so scummy

14:28

So scummy

14:29

Also I have seen them play town before and it didn’t look like this

14:29

Punishing the no voters

Yeah Sylvie!

14:29

Booo

Unreal

But i don't understand why Sylvie pushed on me just to vote no lynch right afetr

14:30

what was that whole thing

Yep

14:30

My question exactly

Like yeah the push on me is understandable but why change it

I called you out as an easy lynch that gives mafia away

14:31

Wanted to see what people did

14:31

And hello no voter

Not to mention that most of you went for me saying i should cheked there weren't many people defending me so again why not just go ahead and lynch

14:32

maybe she wants to keep me alive so she can make you guys lynch me later

14:32

Very scary

I do think that vigi should shoot you lol

14:32

I think that would give us a lot to work with

Can't vigi shoot me later

Or we vote you out

Someone should atleast check me ofc

Because MIH mafia will take you to the end

14:32

And most of us will probably vote you at the end

MIH

Someone should atleast check me ofc

There could be gf so you saying that makes you more of a gf sus

Well yeah im saying

That’s what mrawry and I were saying

that if i get cheked

14:33

it'll just be that either town or gf

You’re acting sus to get checked, which isn’t great unless you’re godfather

Fairy Boots

“No vote” so scummy

I dewd that becawse Yuw awwl awe Wude!

A townie would want the cop to check mafia

Well

Not themselves

I DID SAY THAT

14:34

at the start of day 1 i told everyone

So why act sus? What’s the play?

Omg I can't say cuz then people will figure out what im doing

Ok then tell me postgame because I can’t figure it out

Sow I was fowsed by MIH tuu be wike zis..

14:35

Bwame them not mwe…

Woah hi Sylvie you ok

Nwo….

14:35

I pewked…

Look considering my past two games and how ive also acted here its clear that im trying to help you guys solve things im just confusing y'all

14:36

I did take part in most of the discussions here after all!

14:36

That doesn't really make me super townie ofc but

14:36

Its something

I was town killing that game, I FUCKING DOUSED YOU

Heheheh

Then you’re my townie

MIH

I did take part in most of the discussions here after all!

You were and still are very indecisive for someone who participated in most of the discussions.

So you want cop to waste a check, vigi to waste a shot, town to waste a lynch?

14:37

Doesn’t make sense if you’re towni

damn

Look after i realized lifeline was also town i had to go along with the neutral ww claim so i could get the voting how i wanted it to be

Damn

karcin

You were and still are very indecisive for someone who participated in most of the discussions.

Omg what do you mean

With this set up what does it do

I don't think it's worth investigating MIH at this point since he's already been suspected as godfather. It won't amount to anything if they find out MIH is innocent.

I don't want any of them to waste any of their abilities

There’s no coven, third party is dead, mafia know who is town and who is not

i claimed my role upfront and asked for the trust

14:38

That's all

MIH

Omg what do you mean

I mean, you didn't vote anyone on day 1 and I still don't see you voting or pushing anybody.

They’re voting you lmao

Omg zilch not you accusing me

14:39

look

oh right

i gave my reasons on the no lynch

14:39

but i did say

karcin

I mean, you didn't vote anyone on day 1 and I still don't see you voting or pushing anybody.

This describes you more than MIH tbh

if town wants to vote im gonna vote jimmy

You haven’t voted zilch

Cawn I stop? uwu

i said that many times since i still suspect jimmy

Fairy Boots

You haven’t voted zilch

Not yet ofc

BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic

Cawn I stop? uwu

Yes bestie

Fairy Boots

You haven’t voted zilch

they need concrete “evidence” before voting lmao

Wsg

and never responded to me

14:40

with their reads

Jimmy is friends with Sam irl, I can’t vote them just for talking to Sam

14:40

Not irl

14:40

I mean previously

I did say at the start of the day how i think Zilch/Musical/Jimmy could be our other mafias and since the vote is going on zilch im fine with it for now

They’re the only person in game they know

It’s not me but okay

14:41

I can explain why I’m not talking much

Fairy Boots

They’re voting you lmao

Btw, don't you think they're sheeping there? They didn't really pushed me yet but voting because everyone else is sussing me?

I sussed you too

14:41

i litterally said it at the start of the day

MIH

Yes bestie

You arent my bestie

14:42

Get out of here

Wow okay

14:42

uhm

14:42

enemy

Better

karcin

Btw, don't you think they're sheeping there? They didn't really pushed me yet but voting because everyone else is sussing me?

Yeah they voted you when people started sussing them

God im like Flowey

It isn’t sheeping as much as it’s self preservation

Ok so

Self ores is NAI

What’s happening

Pres

14:43

Lol I think MIH should do updates

14:43

They are the most active

Jimmy if you don't know what's happening why the Zilch vote

^^

I WAS JUST LOOKIGN AT THAT

14:43

first the hammer and now this

Omg

this is why im sus on jimmy bestie

Yeah ok I could vote jimmy for bandwagoning

Fairy Boots

Pres

Yeah I'd be fine with doing them

This is my firmest game and I’m very confused

14:44

First*

Man so much benefit of the doubt lol

Okay so an update on Day 2 so far

Well, it’s not good to just go along with votes

Didn't you say you played other social deduction games before?

Try to be an informed voter

14:45

Vote for people you think are bad

Fairy Boots

Vote for people you think are bad

Ok so I’m in 7 orgs and i have little time

14:45

To I go with majority

If your vote flips town you look extra bad because you had no reason

14:46

Well in these games you’re expected to have enough time to interact and engage

As are the survivor orgs

I missed most of the first day but I took time to read and catch up for day 2

14:47

If you can’t be there all the time you at least need to read and catch up, make notes, and share your notes

Day 2 After the deaths of Fire (Sk) and Sam (Mafia goon) the chat started discussing the no lynch vote and the possible suspects on it ,Zilch was accused and then he defended himself and then he was refuted and afterwards he had a nerd war with meowy. Sylvie said Mih is suspicious and then people started saying Mih should be cheked /shot /lynched .Mih cried and then Sylvie changed their vote to no lynch.Now we were discussing with Zilch again

14:47

I've probably missed some stuff so feel free to add details if you feel they're important

Ok ty

What’s in ur notes Jimmy?

That sums it up well

Thanks omg i was useful

14:49

Anyway im glad we today was very active im general

Something good to make notes on are questions… things that don’t sit right… things that seem curious… contradictions

14:49

Yeah tbh people are pretty active, it’s gonna be a good game

So far its super fun

14:50

I've been at risk for a lynch since day 1

14:50

Anyways

14:50

we haven't heard from

14:50

kokichi

14:50

at all

Omg true

Was just about to say that

Everyone vote kokichi so we get a reaction

Omg imagine if they're stalking the chat

What is their name in here

14:51

Sigh they have so many names

Exorcist Chongyun

@Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi)

ne he he

OMG OKICHI LAUGH

@Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi) get in here you’re getting voted to shit

uhm gamecube are you claiming mafia?(evi)

14:51

evil

Defend yourself pls

Of course I'm the most evil of the bunch

OH MY GOD

I don't even think I've been suspected once lol

GameCube were you the other one playing scum with MIH last game?

no

14:52

Lifeline was

This is my first game

Oh GameCube if MIH flips maf I am coming for your butt butt

Wow

14:52

hot

Anyways uhm kokichi seems to be a corpse

14:53

cosplaying the dead

Lol give em time

14:53

In the meantime vote but don’t hammer

Fairy Boots

Oh GameCube if MIH flips maf I am coming for your butt butt

I realize he's won me over to his side

Let them defend

Uhm you know what?

I'm aware of it at least

Ill hammer rn

14:54

ow

Omg sorry

14:54

didn't mean to hammer you

14:54

How many hammers does it take?

OMG I KILLED IN THE DAY CHAT

14:54

Hammer time

14:55

14:55

What if I just vote 7 times and hammer by myself

HE HAS A GUN

14:55

HE HAS A GUN

14:55

MAFIA

ANOTTHER ONE

14:55

FAIRY/JAMES MAFIA DUO

14:55

AAAAAAAAAA

I have a lemon WATCH OUT

HE HAS A LEMON

Don't make me use it

You know what i have?

14:56

That's right

14:56

i brought a snake to a lemon fight.

Phasmophobia

MIH

i brought a snake to a lemon fight.

Lemon beats snake, everyone who plays rock paper scissors knows that

PHASMOPHOBIA

Gamecube

Lemon beats snake, everyone who plays rock paper scissors knows that

Dammit

I claim revenant

Everyone after i talk

God fucking seven ants

14:58

Revenants

SEVEN ANTS

WE GETTING TWO MORE GHOSTS FOR HALLOWEEN

14:58

hahahha seven ants

Yeah i saw

The WERST

im so excited

omggg same

14:58

Yo we should play

We should yeah

I’m not hugely levelled

14:58

But I been playing since beta

14:59

I have really bad lag

Ive played with my friends for a while and then we stopped

Brain lag

14:59

Omg

14:59

big brain

Big brain lag

14:59

I tend to find the bone, the Luigi, and get pog photos

14:59

Then die instantly

15:00

Ghost hunts and I run into a wall

My friend calls it the luigi too omg

15:00

matchy

Banshees always love me

15:00

Revenants go for me first

YEAH IM ALWAYS THE TARGET

SAME

15:00

LIFE SUCKS

Bruh there's that stupid side goal

I’ve been playing with some ppl who are level 4000

use smudge sticks during a hunt

15:00

i hate 8t

So I am getting better

15:00

OH DUDE WE FOUND A GLITCH

a glitch omg

ME AND WARD dunno if you saw but he played last game

15:01

So he’s a pussy but I told him he can be a van man so he played

15:01

He was insane during anongus days, the best admin Andy around

15:01

Basically broke the game

15:01

Found a whole bunch of weird patterns

15:01

So anyway

15:01

He discovered

15:01

That

15:02

You can USE THE SMUDGE STICK IN THE FUCKING VAN AND IT WORKS

15:02

watch the death cams/head cams to realise when they’re getting hunted

15:02

Then burn away

OH WAIT i think it happened to us too

And the chaser can take photos

we were just messing in the van

Chased

and the objective completed itself

Yeah he literally didn’t know how to play

15:02

Yep

15:02

They’ll patch it soon

15:02

Abuse it

15:02

Also

Well if we play i don't mind going in the house as long as im with someone

We should not chat about phas in here, poor homies have enough to catch up on

Yeah

15:03

anyways

15:03

Mafia

15:03

Discord mafia

what's that?

its a fun game where you hunt ghosts

15:04

with your friends!

15:04

its really fun

15:04

and atmospheric

I was making a joke about the Discord Mafia lol, but I have heard of the game it sounds cool

OH PLEASE

15:05

sorry i missed the funny

15:06

it was pretty funny tho

i too have phasmophobia

15:09

but im a weenie. i gotta turn my mic down because i will scream

Maybe we should all play togheter someday

ye

Rawry

I just caught up on Zilch’s defense and it feels contradictory. Their explanation for voting no lynch on D1 was that we were “overanalyzing” but as Fairy said that’s what a social deduction game is? We win by making reads, gathering information, and lynching scums. Looking at their defense they seem to be pushing the idea that we shouldn’t lynch unless we have concrete evidence, which we may or may not ever get as we don’t know what roles were rolled at this point in time. Also, for someone so against “overanalyzing” the example they gave with the 2 no lynches to meowy was pretty specific. That all said, mind providing us with your updated reads? Yesterday you thought Mih and Kokichi were scummy and Gamecube and Fire was towny. (you say my reads were shitty, but you also thought Fire was town so

‍♀️)

You could have tagged me here. I'll do it later.

Rawry

I just caught up on Zilch’s defense and it feels contradictory. Their explanation for voting no lynch on D1 was that we were “overanalyzing” but as Fairy said that’s what a social deduction game is? We win by making reads, gathering information, and lynching scums. Looking at their defense they seem to be pushing the idea that we shouldn’t lynch unless we have concrete evidence, which we may or may not ever get as we don’t know what roles were rolled at this point in time. Also, for someone so against “overanalyzing” the example they gave with the 2 no lynches to meowy was pretty specific. That all said, mind providing us with your updated reads? Yesterday you thought Mih and Kokichi were scummy and Gamecube and Fire was towny. (you say my reads were shitty, but you also thought Fire was town so

‍♀️)

And btw, I was pushing the idea that it's okay to vote no one on day 1 if you're not confident about your reads. I didn't say that we should never vote anyone unless we have concrete evidence against them.

Things are getting soicy

15:38

spicy

whomst pinged me

Me

16:13

i did

Quick say something

AMONG US

Okay I've thought a little about what to do

16:54

and tbh

16:54

id rather get lynched like rn or tmr

16:55

There's nothing much that i can do and although I'd love to live and help y'all out I'd hate to waste checks and vigilantes just because of how quirky i am

16:55

there's only two or like one evils left anyways

16:56

I doubt ill get attacked eith my reputation

16:56

so if you guys decide to lynch me im gonnabe fine with it

16:56

just don't waste your bullets or checks

16:59

Saying this might make the evils go for my lynch as well to blend in or something but whatever

i already voted for zilch. i'm stil not 100% sure but if i don't vote y'all gone sus me

yeah that's fine im just suggesting

17:09

That if you guys really wanna check or shoot me or whatever i would rather we lynch me now to get this out of the way

We still another 24 hours to go I'd like to hear from Zilch again and exorcist again

Since exorcist hasn't said much after coming on

17:23

im assuming there was no rb

That stand for role block

yep

Why don't you think there's none

Because there would've been no reason not to claim roleblocked if there was one

17:26

And i don't think they would roleblock fire or something because they also planned to attack fire

17:27

So if there was a roleblock town should've reported it immediately

the host confirmed ppl won’t know they are Roleblocked unless they use a night action

17:28

so if they target vanilla townie then nobody is going to claim roleblocked

oooh

17:28

hmm

Oh you're referring to exorcist being the one blocked and not the blocker? That makes more sense

yeah i forgot based mentioned that earlier sorry

17:29

makes sense why the discussion on it didn't come up again

17:30

Well anyways

17:31

With Sam dead that does remove one of the vanilla claims though since we know he lied

You want to get voted so you don't waste role turns is that right?

Mhm

17:32

Its clear that people wanna target me and noe that the vigi is being put against me i don't wanna waste the vigi like that

17:33

so I'd rather just get killed now for everyone's peace of mind

17:33

Mafia will most likely not go after me unless they wanna make things a little more silent but that would be kinda stupid of them

17:35

I really wanted to live and do more funnies but its whatever

17:35

rather not waste resources

I'm going to be honest here, I trust you more than most do here but if you really want to help prove people otherwise. Doing this seems more like a ploy for sympathy.

Im just saying that at this rate ill get someone killed if the vigi goes after me

17:38

id rather take the lynch

17:40

Its very cool that you trust me and from how much we've talked i trust you as well but ill eventually be lynched late game anyway if we don't find anyone else to suspect

17:42

No need for sympathy if im gonna get lynched anyway im just saying we can just speed up the process if people really doubt me that much

17:43

Plus even if i get cheked instead of shot i could still be godfather so it doesn't help much

17:44

And again im just a vanilla villager so there's not much else i can help with

17:45

Had i been a PR i probably would've fought much more for my innocence but its not the case in this game

I'd like to hear what others think

I think vigi should save their shot until we have a 50-50 situation

17:49

that is assuming there even is one

Ill keep my vote on Zilch for now but if you guys wanna change it to me ill vote for myself

nah I’m good

I think today though we should focus on other people. If you really to get voted out fine but we lynch more suspicious people first.

Okay then

18:08

So regarding Zilch

18:08

i feel like the discussions kinda just repeated themselves over and over

18:09

What's been found against him has been presented and he's already defended himself ig

I’m waiting for their reads

I'm still fine with voting Jimmy

Jimmy voted both times with the wagon when he is online but it's weird how they don't even read why the person they're voting is being voted

18:40

The whole Sylvie push on me was also a bit weird

18:40

mostly because of how it started

18:41

with me "claiming Jailor" being sus and all

18:42

and then just voting no lynch after which i thought was for a joke but she never changed it

18:42

maybe she will tho

Isn't Sylvie roleplaying Tenko?

Tenko wouldn't vote no lynch

19:00

she'd probably vote for a guy

a degenerate male*

19:01

i only know that cuz i have a friend who really loves tenko.

19:01

i digress

True

I mostly brought it up in case she was just being aggressive because of the roleplaying.

19:06

Not sure where the line is drawn for role playing

But when she rps she puts the quotations

19:15

she's done so every time

uh so sylvie usually when the all caps comes out she’s evil

19:15

lol

Omg

19:16

well that's something to consider

they’re kinda like mih

19:17

anti town as town and anti scum as scum

19:18

what were their reads again

That i claimed jailor and then claimed vanilla

19:19

and then she voted me

yea that’s just them not reading

19:19

which they do

afterwards my behavior was brought up which was fair but then musical asked what go i believe wich was related to my character or something

19:20

i thought it was a joke

19:20

so i just answered amogus

19:20

and because of that they said im lying about my character

19:20

but why would i lie when i litterally have the description

19:21

and then idk why but she started saying uwu and being a pacifist or whatever

19:21

she asked to stop and i said omay bestie and she said i was not her bestie so yeah

that’s fine we can keep an eye on them

19:27

I don’t particularly town or scum read them at this point in time

It could just be that they thought they found something on me and wanted to point it out

karcin

And btw, I was pushing the idea that it's okay to vote no one on day 1 if you're not confident about your reads. I didn't say that we should never vote anyone unless we have concrete evidence against them.

This is what I don’t get. It’s mafia! You don’t ever really have concrete evidence! You make social reads. There isn’t much in the way of hard logic or mechanics. What is clear though is that it’s suboptimal to vote no one because it deprives you of info and mafia get to decide what info you get from kills. Don’t be afraid of being wrong, it’s the game, action of any kind (even wrong lynches) leads to info. Also, Day 1 lynches are usually wrong because the ratio of town to mafia is high. And of course, because it’s mafia, usually when you get a correct lynch it’s for the wrong reasons.

musicalfoxes

i already voted for zilch. i'm stil not 100% sure but if i don't vote y'all gone sus me

It’s mafia, you make social reads, unless we have a confirmed cop check they’re all best guesses. Have an idea of what to ask or who to sus if they flip town OR mafia.

MIH

Jimmy voted both times with the wagon when he is online but it's weird how they don't even read why the person they're voting is being voted

Agreed

MIH

The whole Sylvie push on me was also a bit weird

Agreed

20:56

Sylvie pushed MIH. When I pointed out that if MIH is town they’re an easy push for mafia that’s when they voted “No one”. Sus

20:58

I definitely don’t think MIH/Sylvie are both mafia

Rawry

yea that’s just them not reading

Hey I fucking read

21:31

I saw that MIH said

21:31

“Oh im a Jailor@

21:31

And then Right after when I started to rp said

21:31

“Oh I cant rp my character without you guys knowing immiedently, So Ill just say Im Angie, A towniel

21:31

Like

21:31

Come on

Lynch mih shoot zilch check jimmy

‍♂️

Meowy I quite like that

I’m half asleep too

22:58

So I mean

My only issue with the MIH vote is that it’s too easy of a push

23:02

Maybe Occam’s razor is good here though

23:03

@Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi) wasn’t threatened by the one vote on him lol, reaction test failed

23:04

Sylvie is so different to last game where they were VT

23:04

Get ur tinfoil lads it’s Day Twoooo already

why the fuck did you ping me

23:05

like three times

23:05

i didnt even read the pings

Fairy Boots

@Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi) wasn’t threatened by the one vote on him lol, reaction test failed

spoiler alert: those are shit at sniffing out scum

Yeahhhhh repeat of last game?

only noob scum will fall for a reaction test

23:05

most likely

23:05

you’re just bringing down a townie that doesnt know how to react to votes properly

23:05

if it even works at all

You protected the scum and killed my townreads sadge

ehe

23:06

welp sucks to suck, bitch

23:06

I wouldn’t know, I was born good at mafia

23:07

Also there’s the reaction, it sucks, but fairly congruent with how you greeted me last game when you were town

23:08

I’m still voting zilch, I think they’re a fairly good vote for reasons already discussed, prolly going to be asleep for the rest of the day… good luck

“it sucks” ok what do you expect

23:09

i’ve been advocating against reaction tests for so long now

Lol never in my life have I heard a mafia player say that

everytime i see me pinged with such a clickbaity catchphrase like “heyo so you’re being voted after cop discovered you were scum, pls repond :perhaps:”

23:09

i tell them off

23:09

they’re so fucking dumb

Weird

who actually falls for that shit other than new players

Yeah so this counts as a reaction

technically

Definitely

my only reaction to reaction tests is seething hate

It’s just to provoke content

23:10

From inactive players

the only content you will provoke out of me is seething hatred for reaction tests

23:10

and then i disappear into the abyss once more

23:10

speaking of disappearing into the abyss

23:10

sayonara

Ok cool so we gotta vote kokichi out at some point because they aren’t interested in playing

23:11

eh whatever

23:11

i’m a cit

23:11

i’ll claim cit until i die

23:11

then you’ll see i’m cit

23:11

and you’ll see why i’m so apathetic about this game

The only thing worse than a mafia player who says “reaction tests shouldn’t be a thing” is the mafia player who says “I don’t play when I get cit so it’s really easy to tell when I am PR or mafia”

23:13

Good night all

pffft ok i probably still shouldnt be replying to this conversation but

23:16

i do act productive as cit

23:16

sometimes

23:16

i also act not productive as pr or mafia

23:16

23:17

just depends on how invested i feel, i guess? idk i used to actually be a good player in terms of content and such

23:17

but i switched to discord mafia after the platform i played on got shut down permanently and idk i just dont feel as much drive anymore

23:17

it sucks because i actually genuinely enjoy playing mafia games but a part of me tells myself “what’s the fuckin point if you aren’t gonna do anything anyway and just be a waste of space”

Maybe taking a break from it would do you good?

23:26

Voting Jimmy for now. Want to wait for what Zilch wanted to say before I vote for them.

Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi)

it sucks because i actually genuinely enjoy playing mafia games but a part of me tells myself “what’s the fuckin point if you aren’t gonna do anything anyway and just be a waste of space”

Reaction Tests

23:57

you arent helping with my wim

Re re re re reaction tests

23:57

i’m blocking you

23:57

(not really)

(Lol good)

Someone hammer

Good morning

Fairy Boots

This is what I don’t get. It’s mafia! You don’t ever really have concrete evidence! You make social reads. There isn’t much in the way of hard logic or mechanics. What is clear though is that it’s suboptimal to vote no one because it deprives you of info and mafia get to decide what info you get from kills. Don’t be afraid of being wrong, it’s the game, action of any kind (even wrong lynches) leads to info. Also, Day 1 lynches are usually wrong because the ratio of town to mafia is high. And of course, because it’s mafia, usually when you get a correct lynch it’s for the wrong reasons.

Sheesh! We've already been there. I understand and I concede. I was just correcting mrawry's overexaggerated statement, not "advocating no lynch" again.

𝕋𝕙𝕖𝔹𝕞𝕚𝕞𝕪

Good morning

Morning Jimmy. Anything new today?

01:55

Well, I've prepared some notes.

Damn

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Damn.

Well, to begin with, what to say of MIH, they're the most confusing player of all. Confusing is the best I could describe them. The amount of content they've produced is overwhelmingly large and I haven't gone through even 40% of it I guess.

01:58

Also, the fact that they voted no lynch on day 1 too despite being an old player. They didn't have to wait for others to vote Jimmy if they themselves wanted to.

02:01

Intuitively saying, musicalfoxes sounds genuine in their speech. To me, they are still neutral with slightly leaning towards scum.

02:02

Although, their statement, "i already voted for zilch. i'm stil not 100% sure but if i don't vote y'all gone sus me" does sound like what I mafia would think, like "I must vote someone to avoid suspicion on myself." But then again, I'm not sure if a mafia would openly say that. Maybe we could spare them for today and lynch at later stages.

Damn

@musicalfoxes I'd like to know who all are in their sus list except me.

02:03

Actually, I'd like @Reb and @Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi) to do the same thing. Give us your sus list. (edited)

¯\(ツ)\/¯

m playing codenames

02:04

dont got time for this rn

02:04

also dont have the brain capacity for it at 2 am

02:04

sorry

I'on fuckin' know, chief

Any names. You don't have to explain them. Just intuitively pick them.

no, ppl are gonna judge my 2 am decision later

02:05

not rn

02:06

ping me when it's 1 pm for me or smth idk

well, it's gonna backfire saying 3 random mfers so

02:06

¯\(ツ)\/¯

Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi)

no, ppl are gonna judge my 2 am decision later

You are already being judged for not providing any content to town.

Reb

well, it's gonna backfire saying 3 random mfers so

@zilch

Reb

well, it's gonna backfire saying 3 random mfers so

Ehh well that's the idea. You gotta take accountability at some point or the other.

02:08

And anyways, if you're not so interested in the game then it wouldn't matter much to you even if you die, right?

¯\(ツ)\/¯

02:09

Plain old cit so

What does cit mean?

town without abilities

oh okay

its short for citizen

02:10

so

got it

02:11

Thanks

Ya welcome

So, you're not gonna vote anyone today either?

¯\(ツ)\/¯

02:13

Its gonna come back to bite me in the ass no matter who i vote so

Damn

karcin

You are already being judged for not providing any content to town.

stop pressuring me to do content at 2 goddamn am pls

02:17

im so fuckin tired

It's okay. We still have plenty of time left.

Damn

I am inclined towards voting Jimmy ( for obvious reasons) or MIH. I'm yet to decide who between these two.

02:27

Also...ehh... I couldn't read Sylvie. I just noticed that they voted MIH and then switched to no lynch. Someone sum up their logs for me.

Good mornin

04:20

Sorry i missed the discussion

04:21

Anyways i see there's been votes there's been arguments im liking what im seeing

Meowy

Lynch mih shoot zilch check jimmy

‍♂️

I'd be fine with this

Fairy Boots

My only issue with the MIH vote is that it’s too easy of a push

I could technically just be lynched on day 3 or something i don't really mind i just didn't want to wast checks and bullets

Gamecube

Voting Jimmy for now. Want to wait for what Zilch wanted to say before I vote for them.

I'd also be fine with voting Jimmy tbh because i do believe some stuff he's defended himself on idk

Fairy Boots

Re re re re reaction tests

I think reaction tests are funny i always react

Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi)

i’m blocking you

When will you unblock me uwu

Reb

Its gonna come back to bite me in the ass no matter who i vote so

Not voting is also gonna do that though

Reb

¯\(ツ)\/¯

I see we have another citizen claim

04:30

Also sorry i pinged some people i forgot to turn off the @ on some of those

MIH

I'd also be fine with voting Jimmy tbh because i do believe some stuff he's defended himself on idk

And by this i meant some stuff Zilch has defended himself on

04:31

But ill wait for someone to talk to cuz im all alone

MIH

Not voting is also gonna do that though

Damn

04:32

Guess i'm fucked

Stop being fucked and participate

04:33

Just look at the people here and vote someone

04:33

see why Zilch is on the wagon or something

04:33

inform yourself

¯\(ツ)\/¯

04:34

i'm probs gonna make some stupid ass plays so

04:34

naaaaah

If you really are citizen then the only thing you can help with is voting!

¯\(ツ)\/¯

Well yes all i can do p much vote, but

buuut

05:54

cmon there's gotta someone you suspect

When day end

in 12 hours i think

06:21

We still have some time left to discuss

MIH

cmon there's gotta someone you suspect

¯\(ツ)\/¯

06:23

Not really

How can you not suspect anyone there's people getting accused left and right

Who knows if they're right or wrong

Well you have to decide on that

But i dont know

Make a guess

Omg hello Zilch

Hello MIH

karcin

Make a guess

but i dont know to make a guess.

Zach, you can hammer me right now. lol

its people screaming at people

karcin

Zach, you can hammer me right now. lol

I dont know if i should

This doesn't seem to be going anywhere else anyway.

i still dont know if i should.

Zilch....

07:23

we had good times,fun in the sun

Ehh tbh they're right. We should have eliminated Jimmy in first round so that we wouldn't have to worry about him today.

¯\(ツ)\/¯

:(

07:24

Bestie....

Is @musicalfoxes here?

hm?

07:25

why are you askin

Because I want see their sus list

well they'll probably be here now that you pinged em

07:26

Wait they are

Damn

07:27

You two have fun ig lmao

Hmmm

07:32

hey Zilch

07:33

im curious

07:33

what's your role

07:34

If you're so close to death anyway you might as well defend yourself with anything you can!

You're about to find out

07:35

I can't defend myself with my role

Hm?

07:35

Why nooot

Im vanilla town

Ouch

07:35

Hehe

07:35

Well well well

07:36

That does make things harder

07:36

who's your character

Kiyotaka Ishimaru

Damn

07:36

Kyotaka is nice

Damn

Well this sure is a bummer

I haven't played so Idk

What a sad end of a day

07:37

Although if you do turn out innocent i guess ill be next

07:38

So ww might see eachother pretty soon

hmm

Damn

These damn townies going after is mafia people

Damn.

Zilch will you ever forgive me

That's a lot of vanilla town

MIH

Zilch will you ever forgive me

lol

07:41

MIH, why would you kill Fire?

Because that's what you told me to do in the chat last night

Damn.

No?

07:42

I told you to roleblock them

You totally did i told you we should target rawry

07:42

Smh we're so unorganized

07:42

Mafia tingz

mrawry was onto me. That would have made me sus.

Just move mafia chat in here to make things more clear for everyone

Yeah

07:43

Wait zilch are you trying to frame me

07:43

with a mafia chat joke

07:44

Im so proud of you

07:44

Too bad my reputation is already shit

MIH

with a mafia chat joke

Idk how that works

What we just did

07:48

pretending like we're talking in the wrong chat ajd all

Yeah, as if mafia would be that stupid.

its veeery quriky i do it all the time

MIH

Wait zilch are you trying to frame me

Actually, it's the other way around.

Huh

07:50

What

MIH

Wait zilch are you trying to frame me

it makes me look extra bad lol

Oh that is true

07:50

Haha

So, who's framing who?

Looks like we're both framing you

07:52

these two days have been very fun so far

07:52

conflict jokes accusations

07:52

very fun

07:52

A nerd war

07:52

PFT

07:52

Not you voting me

oh no don't fling it off calling it a joke now lol

Wdym im always joking

07:53

Anyways what's up with the vote on me

I mean

you know that after i die it'll make you look worse

It's not like it's gonna change the current lynch

07:54

so chill

although that could go vice versa

07:54

Knowing my death comes tmr or the day after is gonna be even scarier

Is saying things like that supposed to make you look towny?

Not at all if i wanted to make myself look townie i would've just kept quiet and only take part in the serious discussions

07:56

But where's the fun in that

07:57

I've claimed my role and character,since i can't to much more than help with the vote or for confirmation i don't really care if i get lynched

07:57

My death will be used for further deduction

MIH

Not at all if i wanted to make myself look townie i would've just kept quiet and only take part in the serious discussions

That's not your playstyle

Ofc it isn't

Actually, if we had played more games together before, keeping quiet and only taking part in serious discussions would look odd on you. And I'd sus you more then.

08:01

Well, I'll get going now.

08:01

So long

Damn

If Zilch is guilty who are we going after next or is that a discussion best to talk about on Day3?

I suggest me or Jimmy

09:20

But maybe new evidence will be unconvered by day 3

If we lynch zilch today

09:33

Shoot Jimmy

09:33

and then lynch me tmr

09:33

and check someone else tonight

Damn

6 hours....

Damn

No much left to discuss either

Hmmm

12:50

Yknow what

Damn

Look

12:55

I do suspect Zilch im not gonna say he's innocent by any means

12:55

but

12:56

he's tried to defend himself and i find the fact that he tried to defend the no lynch so much sincere,if it makes sense?

12:56

He could've just said I pushed for the np lynch as well because i did at the time

12:56

Gamecube backed me up on it as well

12:57

Yet zilch stood his ground and although the no lynch thing is suboptimal if feel like he just went with it because he thought it was our best option at the time

12:58

And if he were evil i don't believe he would advocate it so strongly

12:58

I mean there were mountains on arguments on this

12:58

Why would you want that much attention on yourself

12:59

And although we can't narrow it down that much yet his vanilla town claim could be possible

12:59

So that's why I'd personally like to go for Jimmy with this votd

I had no problem with the No lynch. But 1. Zilch didn’t bother to claim until prompted way later in the wagon, and the most convenient citizen claim at that. 2. He didn’t defend himself by clarifying his intentions, Rather, he focused on calling out other suspicious players such as mrawry, mih, musical fox. I don’t like to hammer but since mih switched I’m putting my vote in

That's fair yeah I get what you're saying omg

13:36

However ill keep my vote on jimmy for now

13:36

don't wanna hammer

Is not claiming that suspicious? Nobody going to admit their real role aside from regular townies so revealing that you are doesn't change much.

Not mention

13:48

what would have happened if he had claimed

13:49

it doesn't really matter cuz in the end its just a vanilla claim which is just very easy to say you are

I mean

13:51

zilch was throwing shade at me saying my reads were shitty and unsubstantiated

13:51

but like they didn’t elaborate with much evidence for saying musical or mih was sus

13:52

that’s why my vote stays on zilch

13:52

if anything scum will claim a vanilla town role

13:52

such as sam did

13:52

I doubt with 1-2 scum left they’d be bold enough to claim a PR

13:57

if there is a cop they should be checking on all the less helpful ppl like jimmy, sylvie, zach, etc

13:58

lynching those ppl gives us no info since we don’t have much to analyze their reads/interactions with

14:00

if they get confirmed town, then scum can pick them off for us

14:01

we want more active town in the late game

14:01

otherwise free win for scum

Gamecube

Is not claiming that suspicious? Nobody going to admit their real role aside from regular townies so revealing that you are doesn't change much.

not claiming until the last minute when you have a wagon of 5 votes against you is kinda sus

14:05

that and they didn’t claim until prompted by mih

But even if they did, it wouldn't have changed much

I mean I feel like they had plenty of time to claim earlier in D2

Rawry

if they get confirmed town, then scum can pick them off for us

Also why would it make a difference if they are confirmed or not. Serial killer is dead. Wouldn't it make more sense for mafia to go after anyone but the less talkative.

why would scum keep a confirmed town around?

Because serial killer is dead so everyone that isn't mafia is confirmed for them

uh but like why aren’t you thinking in the town’s perspective

14:10

town is never going to lynch a confirmed town

Besides it's not like Zach after being confirmed is all of a sudden going to become a threat after being confirmed. It's not like they are contributing much.

having a confirmed town increases town’s chances of finding the scum……

Killing talkative ones seeks more effective to me

14:16

Yeah there will be a confirmed alive but an active person is gone which means there's less discussion and you can intervene more to push your needs

Omg people discussing

14:16

Lemme catch up with the disc rq

basically the discussion is

14:19

if you were to put yourself in scum’s shoes

14:19

would you rather kill a talkative unconfirmed town

14:19

or a unhelpful confirmed town

Okay i just caught up

14:20

omg hello zilch as well

14:20

this is about to get interesting

14:22

I'd probably still kill the talkative ones tbh

14:22

or rather

14:22

alternate

Btw, I just need to ask a question. Me "advocating" no lynch is scummy because you guys think that I could be a mafia who is* aware of the fact that no lycnhing day 1 is not an optimal strategy for town and hence trying to promote it for my advantage? (edited)

Confirmed towns are bad to be left around but if they're inactive and they don't even vote they're just there for nothing

well don’t forget that inactive towns may get replaced

Replacements usually don't even get what's happening or who trust especially if they're replaced mid /late game

14:24

and like i said you can just prioritize on who you'd need to go for

karcin

Btw, I just need to ask a question. Me "advocating" no lynch is scummy because you guys think that I could be a mafia who is* aware of the fact that no lycnhing day 1 is not an optimal strategy for town and hence trying to promote it for my advantage? (edited)

the late claim and reads that were never expanded upon as rawry pointed out are also suspicious

14:29

Personally i think it could be possible you just voted no lynch because you thought it would be the best vote for day and you've defended it a lot afterwards so that's why i said imo that doesn't make you scummy in that regard

14:29

for day 1*

MIH

the late claim and reads that were never expanded upon as rawry pointed out are also suspicious

That's okay. I'm not asking why I'm being sussed. I'm asking why me "advocating" no lynch is sus.

No lynch in general is not that great of a vote even on day 1,as fairy and the others explained,so that's why pushing for it would come across as sussy

14:32

Cause that way you give mafia the first move basically

So, people thought that I'm a mafia who's aware of the disadvantages of no lynch day 1 to town?

No i think they're saying you wanted no lynch helped you as maf but you didn't know how disadvantageous it was to town

14:35

It wouldn't make sense for you to know how bad it is beforehand and then still suggest and defend it

MIH

No i think they're saying you wanted no lynch helped you as maf but you didn't know how disadvantageous it was to town

Both are the same thing though

you're just putting yourself in a poopy shit crap situation for nothing

14:36

Wdym?

14:36

If you're aware of the disadvantages you wouldn't suggest it

Advantage to scum is disadvantage to town. Both are different ways of saying the same thing.

If you're not aware you'd suggest it claiming it would save a townie it could potentially kill or something like that

MIH

It wouldn't make sense for you to know how bad it is beforehand and then still suggest and defend it

You get it?

Well that's what im saying

14:38

if you really are scummy sussy baka

14:38

you did this unintentionally

14:39

You didn't know how no lynch was worse and so you suggested it

14:39

thinking it would skip a kill and no mafia would be at risk

Btw, I'm not asking about the people's perspective who sussed me for that, not you, you didn't sus me for that.

they're not accusing you of deliberately doing this

14:40

That's atleast what I've understood

14:40

I could be wrong but from all the discussions that's what I've concluded

14:41

Someone should correct me though idk if i made this more confusing

14:41

Mih moment

MIH

You didn't know how no lynch was worse and so you suggested it

I didn't suggest it though I just voted for myself

lol seppuku

14:48

i don't know how you're supposed to play this game but my guess is this isn't it, lol.

karcin

I didn't suggest it though I just voted for myself

You were the first one to ask about it and also vote on it

MIH

You were the first one to ask about it and also vote on it

Yeah, okay. And others followed. Not my fault though.

14:50

Anyways, thanks for explaining.

Well yeah some of us like me and Gamecube followed because the person we wanted to vote wasn't brought up and like i said there could be scum who just followed the vote since it helped them

14:51

like sam and fire

Rawry

but like they didn’t elaborate with much evidence for saying musical or mih was sus

How could have I when I was the one on whom most of the day 2 was focused?

3 hours left....

karcin

How could have I when I was the one on whom most of the day 2 was focused?

I mean we have 3 hours as mih said

15:49

what was your “evidence” for the musical vote

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i too would like to hear this evidence good xir

15:56

did zilch expose their role yet?

zilch claims vanilla townie

gotcha.

karcin

Intuitively saying, musicalfoxes sounds genuine in their speech. To me, they are still neutral with slightly leaning towards scum.

.

Rawry

what was your “evidence” for the musical vote

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.

ya but why

karcin

Although, their statement, "i already voted for zilch. i'm stil not 100% sure but if i don't vote y'all gone sus me" does sound like what I mafia would think, like "I must vote someone to avoid suspicion on myself." But then again, I'm not sure if a mafia would openly say that. Maybe we could spare them for today and lynch at later stages.

.

you said i sound genuine but then you said you're leaning towards scum. we're missing the middle part haha

15:58

ah, okay, that's a bit more i suppose.

I could vote Jimmy but I refrained from voting him on day 1, so voting him now when I already could have voted him day 1 feels like a waste.

16:01

MIH, Jimmy and you. These were three people I thought I'd vote today. As MIH has already got everybody's attention and people were asking cop to check or vigilante to shoot MIH, I thought I might as well vote you.

so your suspicion of me is entirely based on the fact that i voted you and said it was to not get sussed?

Also because you were present on the no lynch and zilch bandwagon on both the days without much opinions of yourself.

16:04

So did Jimmy though

Nobody check me!!!DON'T DARE

16:06

I'd rather just get lynched

i mean...can't we just check the people we're currently suspecting? idk who is check, but either jimmy or zilch?

musicalfoxes

so your suspicion of me is entirely based on the fact that i voted you and said it was to not get sussed?

You felt that voting no lynch on day 1 is the right option for you, and so did I. And, if you're still a town, so could I. But you voted me for "advocating no lynch" is that right?

karcin

And how did you conclude that lynching day 1 is the optimal case? Did you list out all the cases first to disregard my case as an exception? And let's even suppose that day 1 lynch is the optimal strategy, then where were you at day 1? Why didn't you push anybody and assert everyone to vote them too? Is it because you didn't want to take accountability for it?

okay, so i am somewhat new to this game so these could all be pleb reads but honestly my suspicion of you is based off of your early behavior interacting with fairy boots. i felt you were arguing too many points at once. you weren't trying to change their mind, you were simply trying to distract them from the argument by supplying too many things to respond to. this tactic would leave people questioning even though you didn't give any actual evidence. "is it because you didnt want to take accountability for it" feels like an emotionally charged statement meant to breed chaos/vitriol, giving you more time to blend in as a townie. also, you gotta admit, you being vanilla town automatically puts you down a peg. that is what a mafia would claim if asked because it's the most generic one with the least risk of saying something someone else actually has.

16:17

it's one reason i still half suspect mih. their 'teehee spoons! i'm so random!' routine also feels like a distraction tactic.

16:21

it's been my experience when debating with people, the more arguments they give, the more they're trying to squeeze by a not great argument by conflating the issue. if i argue this one issue, i'll lose, but if i muddle up the argument and make it seem like there are tons of points in my favor and we just don't have time to argue them all will have a much higher rate of success because people will be thinking 'well, he might have a point, i just don't understand it.' it breeds doubt.

musicalfoxes

okay, so i am somewhat new to this game so these could all be pleb reads but honestly my suspicion of you is based off of your early behavior interacting with fairy boots. i felt you were arguing too many points at once. you weren't trying to change their mind, you were simply trying to distract them from the argument by supplying too many things to respond to. this tactic would leave people questioning even though you didn't give any actual evidence. "is it because you didnt want to take accountability for it" feels like an emotionally charged statement meant to breed chaos/vitriol, giving you more time to blend in as a townie. also, you gotta admit, you being vanilla town automatically puts you down a peg. that is what a mafia would claim if asked because it's the most generic one with the least risk of saying something someone else actually has.

Ehhh okay. So I basically asked too many questions in the same message.

16:27

Fortunately, it wasn't a problem to Fairy boots. They handled it all.

musicalfoxes

it's one reason i still half suspect mih. their 'teehee spoons! i'm so random!' routine also feels like a distraction tactic.

UHM excuse me when the hell did i mention spoons omg

16:30

Plus il totally not like confusing town omg i do converse seriously when needed to

16:30

Honestly this is perjury

16:30

Slander

if zilch flips town we check fairy

16:38

they feel towny and we share a lot of same viewpoints but gut read, I do feel they bandwagoned onto my suspicions on zilch quite a bit

Check Fairy ,Shoot Jimmy!

16:46

Also i wanted to point something out

16:46

or rather

16:47

to remind people of it

16:47

ahem

16:47

Regarding the push on me

16:47

Sylvie and Musical seemed to be in cahoots to take me down!

16:48

Or idk it could just be a feelin but yknow

16:48

i am simply sussing you lightly for now

16:48

FOR NOW

THAT'S WHAT THEY ALL SAY

uh so like I’m probably going to die today

What

so about sylvie

16:48

don’t waste a check on them

16:48

just put a few votes on her

uh

16:48

whAT

and do a reaction test

But if Zilch bestie does turn out evil(scary)

16:50

who should be cheked then huh?

if zilch flips evil musical is prob clear

I say musical should be cheked!

you can check me but you are wasting a check.

16:51

well, wait wait

Honestly same bestie

i dont want my innocence to lie on zilch because im not 100% sure theyre evil

ok nvm yea check musical if zilch flips evil lol

lol

but fairy first

i mean, that's fine but again we are wasting a check.

No we're not?With me its different cuz im like a step on the ground a step to the noose

this is all assuming we even have a sheriff

Wait

either way whatever zilch flips will give lots of info tmr

so lets assumed

ok i actually have to recuse myself from this game

that sylvie is pr cuz of the tenko claim

16:53

there could also be a sheriff

16:53

or atleast a 1 shot sheriff

16:53

cuz we did get both sk and maf

why does tenko make them pr again

Tenko personality wise and everything is bodyguard like

16:54

technically could be vigi but defenetly not sheriff

I honestly think there aren’t a lot of PRs in this game

oh wait nevermind im just stupid

If we don't have a sheriff it'll be troubling

16:57

Also 1 hour and 5 mins left

we could do a roll call tmr

16:57

have everyone share who their character is

16:57

and have those most sus give us names first

Id really like that

yeah i mean i was kind of thinking why cant we just do that

16:58

then all the vanilla townsfolk should be investigated?

make evils work for it

I said at the start that revealing our characters could get us killed if the mafia have played dr

since they’d need to claim some townie DR character lol

But now

16:58

since 2 evils are already down

musicalfoxes

then all the vanilla townsfolk should be investigated?

nah not claim the role, just the DR character

want me to make a list with the claims so far though?

16:59

just for reference

ohhhh

I have a list but I feel like scum would use it to hunt for PRs

Hh yeah you're right now that i think about it

well how many scum are likely to be in the game? 2 are already out.

hopefully they haven't paid attention

17:00

2 or 1

17:00

that's the max i think

2 is the max of bad characters? then...wait...

17:01

math?

17:01

im confused

No

17:01

1 or 2 more

oh ok i c

TTT (goon, goon, RB, SK) TTTTT (goon, GF, SK) T (goon, RB, GF, SK) TTTTTTT (goon, GF, SK)

Yep

so, someone better/more experienced at the game than me...should we be lynching someone?

17:03

because if so, if we cant get the 6 on zilch, do we want to put 6 on jimmy?

We can

ya but is it good strategy lol

Idk there's just 1 hour left and i was waiting to see what the thoughts on the jimmy vote were

i came into this thinking it would be smarter to try not to vote anyone until we were sure or else we might start picking off townies, but several others have disagreed so i just wanna know the smart thing to do here

Personally i just vote with who i suspect and sometimes vote to see reactions

17:06

It seems that the vote will go on zilch cuz i don't think anyone will change it

17:06

so

guys

17:10

i didnt know what my role was til just now

17:11

LOL

mih was probably wondering why you never showed up in the mafia chat

17:15

but real talk just keep it to yourself for now until tmr

17:15

get jimmy, fairy etc to give their character first

ya i'm big dum.

17:16

i deff wouldve noticed a new discord server tho lol

hm

17:17

what makes you think scum chat is on a different server

cause the admins told me thats how it works lol

17:18

wait isnt that in the opening rules?

17:19

i thought i remembered reading that there.

why would you need to ask the host where the mafia chat is

17:21

and no I don’t think it’s in the rules no

17:21

unless you wanna point it out to me

because while searching for zilchs texts i saw this and thought i was seeing mafia chat because i forgot that they were fucking around about being mafia. thats why i said i had to recuse myself from the game because i thought i was seeing the mafia chat which would be cheating.

Rawry

mih was probably wondering why you never showed up in the mafia chat

THAT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE NOW

I was wondering where our godfather was!

i saw it and was like 'son of a gun it IS MIH AND ZILCH' and then the admins were like no, no youre just real dumb

17:23

and i was like oooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

PLEASE

17:23

Musical tell me who to target tonight btw

ok but u gotta lean in real close so i can whisper it

17:24

mih inc.

Okay

oh god now mihs gonna die tonight and yall gonna lynch me

Imagine if Mafia had the guts to actually go for me

lmao ok I believe you for now musical

please, i'm not guilty, i'm just stupid

The sheer audacity you'd need to go for me

LOL

that and the hosts appear to be online lol

17:25

so it’s possible you actually asked them and they responded

OR THEY'RE IN ON IT

17:25

ITS A CONSPIRACY

17:25

THIS GAME WAS A HOAX!

yes that’s why the host changed their name

17:26

to jaMIHes

WAIT NO

it’s all a conspiracy

ya i could post screnshot but feel like thats against the spirit of the game tbh

Gee golly you caught me

yea no modcomms

17:26

it’s against the rules

17:26

so good thing you didn’t

But i will

17:29

30 minutes left....

17:29

Doomsday approaches

you started a trend

Trendsetter

I didn’t realize you got lune and nashed to also change their names lmao

We got merch

17:30

its all coming togheter

Damn

oh hello zach

Yo

I love acting like the world ends when the day does so

17:31

I love you all

17:32

Its been good

17:32

Good times,good laughs

Damn

Its come to this

17:32

The end.

17:32

We're all going to perish

Whoever dies tonight depends on Zilch's guilt

we lived we laughed we loved

17:33

we girlbossed into the sun

Yeah

17:34

I'll remind the plan for tonight

If he is, goodbye Mrawry or Fairy

i read those names as rhyming. do those names rhyme?

They both have ry in the end so yeha

yeah but is mrawry with a high a like fairy, or is it like mr-arrr-y, like a pirate would say it

17:35

cause if its the pirate one, they dont rhyme

it’s mrawr + y

oh thanks thats super helupful

meowy named my account lmao

17:36

it’s a play on meowy

17:36

except mrawr like

ok u know about rar files right

angry cat meow

That's why they are similar

is it like RARE steak, or a RAR file

17:36

or maybe rare vs roar

I thought it was coincidence

Check : -Fairy(If Zilch good) -Musical(If Zilch bad) !!!If any of the two mentioned above are the cops check the other one!!! Shoot: -Jimmy(Damn you Jimmy Boy) Protect: -Rawry maybe idk Day 3 Lynch: -MIH (Cuz quirky and im super hot) -Someone else(If there's new info)

Reaction Test: sylvie

love it. love everything about it. could we move the last item up tho? we have 10 minutes

Wdym

ok so what does the reaction test actually do?

And if the cop doesn't exist?

like what are we looking for in their recactions?

musicalfoxes

is it like RARE steak, or a RAR file

like rar file lol

ok so then they do not rhyme lol

reaction test is usually when townies put a vote or two on someone they think is sus

17:38

kinda like what fairy has been doing

Gamecube

And if the cop doesn't exist?

If the cop doesn't exist i can convert to copism

But no then just no check tonight if im just putting everything on the table

usually then the voted person will need to start defending themselves

17:39

and you can make reads based on their defense

17:39

do they seem logical, pro-town, overly defensive, etc

Omg the first two sound just like me

17:41

19 minutes till doomsday...

YOU FIND THE END OF THE WORLD YUMMY

Only if it's seasoned properly

We're all gonna explode in a few minutes

17:42

True

17:43

Wait gamecube we can just talk in the amf chat right after this i forgot

17:43

maf*

17:43

Silly me!

17:43

Im so random!

Right my role blocking self should head over to the mafia chat where members of the mafia converse with fellow mafia associates

Litterally us

17:44

Wait im the goon/gf omg that's so cool

Plus Sam may they rest in peace

im killin tonight boys

17:44

May Sam rest their soul!!!

17:44

He did not deserve such a cruel fate

ok well that’s fine and good but don’t kill anyone with MIH in their name ok

17:48

lmao

Yeah we're privileged

I approve this message

I can’t die until I get the MIH merch that was promised

Mih players actually have a private chat cuz we're so cool and awesome

Jimmy needs to change his name. It's perfect for it!

Trueee

17:49

Eidhdifbf

17:49

I hope we all survive the night:(

SaMIH

Samih indeed

17:51

9 minutes

17:51

till 2022

Goodbye for now see you tomorrow, or not.

Good luck everyone!I hope i see y'all tomorrow

If you don't kill anyone, you will see everyone!

Omg that's so true

17:53

Idk if i can stop myself from killing though...

17:53

Pretty addictive

Or doctor can save somebody if they are still around or if they even existed at all

save MIH (lame pun sorry)

Before we finish here who didn't vote aside from Zach?

kokichi

That everyone?

Uh

17:55

i think so?

We're 13 this round right?

wait no

If so then we are 11 left

started with 13

there's 9 voters

we 11 now

Yeah

17:56

we good actually

Zach and kok non vote

zach and cock gottem

I only see 8 votes

there's the no lynch too

17:57

from sylvie

Nevermind didn't see the no lynch

17:57

So only those two didn't vote alright byyyee

Zach said he didn't wanna vote since he didn't wanna get judged for it and Kokichi idk

17:58

2 minutes left....

If anything not voting is worse

Goodbye Zilch!Im sorry we didn't get to be besties for long this game....

18:00

Good luck everyone!

Gamecube

If he is, goodbye Mrawry or Fairy

what

Don't let the mafia bugs byte

wot wot wot wot

18:00

this sounds like a threat

BYE

omg

SLEEPY TIME FAIRY

----day 2 end/day 3 start----

ForeverBel pinned a message to this channel. 10/07/2021 6:01 PM

WHAT

18:03

EXCUSE ME

18:04

I told you we should've voted Jimmy but nooooo

18:04

My best friend is now DEAD

18:04

and my minion died too...

18:04

18:05

MAFIA JUST PICKED THE WRONG PERSON TO MESS WITH

18:06

This is horrible my besties are dead

18:06

Did anyone check fairy

18:07

And why didn't Musical shoot jimmy

18:08

are you joking that was our super sexy plan

18:08

wait maybe Musical was rbed

18:08

or does the death interrupt his ability it shouldn't

18:09

UGH

18:09

MIH

or does the death interrupt his ability it shouldn't

Death does not stop any actions.

Then Musical roleblocked or a FAILURE AT HIS JOB

18:12

and how about we also discuss the zilch wagon since it was pretty interesting

18:12

Oh that's right!

18:12

JIMMY WAS ON BOTH OF THEM

18:15

Zilch,Musical....if you're out there in dead chat.....I WILL AVANGE YOU

18:15

With my own two vanilla hands!

18:16

Haha they probably don't even think im town for all i know

18:17

Oh the trials and tribulations of being quirky

Fairy Boots

this sounds like a threat

Just to clear things up for Fairy, this was not a threat, I was suspecting that Fairy or Mrawry would be targeted if Zilch was mafia.

18:21

I am not vigilante so I can't kill anyone even if I wanted to

oh I’m still alive lol

18:23

sad that we lost a PR

Well i think Jimmy or Fairy should be killed today

18:23

Ngl

18:23

smh

18:23

Because like

I think let’s get them to claim their character first

Jimmy claimed vanilla.

18:25

oh wait

18:25

omg

18:25

just had a theory

18:25

what if

when did jimmy claim vanilla town

Mafia killed musical since we said Fairy should be cheked if Zilch is inno

18:26

and now they're trying to pin it on Fairy!

so jimmy did not claim anything

18:26

Claimslist Mih - Vanilla Town Kokichi - Vanilla Town Meowy - Vanilla Town GameCube - Vanilla Town Zach - Vanilla Town No Claim Sylvie Fairy Jimmy

Jimmy did

18:26

I remember it but idk when exactly

I couldn’t find it

he said he was just a regular townie

I just searched for it

I never claimed anything

Ugh lemme try and find it

18:27

ig i could be wrong

18:27

but i remember him saying that

On the subject of Jimmy, they hoped on the Zilch bandwagon real quick on Day 2

God dammit you're right meowy

18:30

dunno why i had that in my head

18:30

But the evidence still stands for jimmy

18:30

hppping on both wagons without much reason and hammering the first one as well

18:31

it could be argued that he's not paying attention to the game and just voting for the sake of it

18:31

but like

Gamecube

So during the night if you don't have a role you just don't do anything basically

isn’t this basically softing vanilla town

what's the point of keeping someone like that alive

It's a question not an outright claim

anyways

18:32

we did say today we'd claim characters

18:32

lets get on that shall we

the only thing is

18:33

now I’m concerned that the town PRs are main characters

18:33

cause hajime was one shot vig

Hm

18:34

I mean that could be true

depends on the rolls I guess?

Hajime being a 1 shot vig doesn't really correlate tbh

18:34

i thought the mcs would be cops or something

18:35

Wait actually i guess they do shoot

18:35

truth bullets

18:35

eh

18:35

i meam

Well Shuichi would fit the cop role well

I wish musical used their night action

18:35

sad

Exactly

18:35

That's why i was wondering

Especially with Zilch being confirmed good

what if musical got rbd

18:36

I really doubt musical wouldn't shoot anyone after last lynch's result

18:36

and they were there for our final discussion sort of

If a one shot Vigilante is roleblocked, can they try again another round?

TTT (goon, goon, RB, SK) TTTTT (goon, GF, SK) T (goon, RB, GF, SK)

18:37

that’s our only possibility after we know musical had PR

18:37

so like there could be a maf RB

18:37

but it’s super unlikely

18:37

I don’t think musical was RB’d

But why didn't they shoot

they probably didn’t expect to die tbh

yeah but we still made a plan

18:38

i would've shot!

18:38

Hmmm

if I thought I’d live another day I’d have saved my shot

18:38

especially if I was 1 shot vig

Well atleast we have eliminated one of the evil combos

18:39

3 remain though

or idk maybe you’re right

18:39

I didn’t see that the TTT combo also has a RB

18:39

I’m blind

18:39

so yes possible

Wait if the plan didn't really go that well anyway can i live another day

uwu

18:41

Also with musical dead now

18:41

there's

18:41

9 of us?

Yeah

okay then

18:42

Im a bit suspicious of Fairy

18:42

with the Zilch results and musical death and all

let’s get her to give us a readslist

18:43

in previous games I’ve played she was more “towny” I feel

Looking back at yesterday's arguments against Zilch

18:45

Didn't fairy seem a bit too focused on the no lynch wagon?Like yeah that was one of the main suspicions about Zilch but if feel like Fairy was honing in on it a bit too much

18:45

Regarding Zilch i mean

well

18:45

to be fair zilch wasn’t a very good town lol

I mean yeah that's true

Personally I was a little wary of them just because of jumping on the Zilch suspicious with Mrawry pretty heavily and they were leading the conversation a lot

But idk

same

18:46

one thing about fairy that also bothered me

18:47

she did reaction tests to kokichi and sylvie

18:47

but she didn’t interact with jimmy

now that you're bringing this up you're right

18:47

how has fairy not went off on jimmy yet at all

18:48

he even jumped on the wagon very suddenly and fairy didn't comment much on it

18:48

for someone who was focused very much on that part regarding Zilch not discussing Jimmy more was a bit odd

there I put a vote on jimmy

18:49

so all of us can discuss lol

Yeah

18:50

For now i trust you and gamecube the most cuz we've chatted a lot

18:50

I also trust Zach to some extend just because he isn't acting much different from other games altough the whole not voting thing was a bit

Just to be sure if there's no tole claim among us right?

tole claim?

wdym

Role

PR?

If that stands for player role yeah?

power role

18:51

non vanilla townie

Im the only one who claimed out of the three of us

I don’t mind claiming

Oh?

18:52

Well i think you should save it

MIH mentioned earlier revealing character's that's almost revealing roles depending on the character.

but maybe later today, would rather wait to see what others say

18:53

it would be beneficial for town to claim my character

I think the character thing could be extremely dangerous

so maybe later

because if mafia knows dr

18:53

they'll know what characters could be important

Can there be multiple of the same power role?

it depends on what rolled

Yeah

but yes there can be

Does that rule apply for mafia too?

Rawry

TTT (goon, goon, RB, SK) TTTTT (goon, GF, SK) T (goon, RB, GF, SK)

^

Well it does yeah

this is what we’re working with for maf

there could be two goons

goon is like vanilla townie tho

18:56

vanilla maf

Goons I knew that

Goon sounds funny

18:56

goon goon goon

although

18:58

now thanks to zilch we don’t get to see the killing faction

18:58

we could have had another vig who shot musical … but I guess that’s doubtful since musical died from a “blow to the head”

but that would bring another question

18:59

do we have a rb ourselves

18:59

If maf didn't kill last night that would be the only explanation

18:59

or ig inactivity

Rawry

now thanks to zilch we don’t get to see the killing faction

thinking back to this, this was so scummy smh

19:00

anyways

snitch

snitches get stitches

19:01

but how fitting is his role lol

I don't see Exorcist or Zach having a role. They both said they were both vanilla town with nothing to do or contribute.

I believe Exorcist

Zach feels a lil more defensive than usual

19:03

but I know their backstory so I can also see why

The constant damn seemed excessive

they have a track record for getting mislynched as town

Again from my experience in the gnosia game when i replaced zach

19:03

i do believe he would act just like he's acted this game as town

yea the vanilla townie claim is prob true

has anyone played with zach when he was evil

nope

I bet if he was evil he would try to vote tbh

19:05

He said yesterday he doesn't wanna vote cuz he gets judged on it

Or he would have been instructed to do so. Like a certain other inactive player has been doing.

But if he was maf he would probably vote to seem more townie

eh I could see both ways

Although these are just my assumptions based on what I've seen from him

they could just be maf trying to lay low

its possible

“don’t want to be judged” etc

19:06

but I’m town lean on him rn so

19:06

there are bigger fish to fry

Yep

Not voting to me is more suspicious than voting

hm yea I can see that though

19:07

usually when im maf I tend to not vote lol

19:07

I need to switch up my meta if I ever play another game with you guys

The 3 of us are signed up for game 11 so far

I hope I roll town

19:08

I suck as scum

I rarely get to be evil

19:09

i hope i get town again cuz its much more relaxing

town is much more fun

19:09

you get to game solve and have fun

19:09

maf is more like

Town is so fun cuz i get to solve things

gotta watch my mouth

19:09

make sure I don’t slip

19:10

keep eyes on my buddies

Imagine if all 3 of us end up data breachers It would be hilarious

oh god just please don’t get yourself lynched D1

Every game I've played this year I've been either dead night one as Powerless Town or Evil.

19:11

This is the first time I'm alive as town in a long time

Imagine you both die and im the last evil

19:12

The hopes of winning would plummet in an instant

I will say the benefits of having me on your team is I’m pretty hard to lynch

️

The players left are: Fairy, Gamecube, Mrawry, MIH, Exorcist, Jimmy, Zach, Meowy, and Sylvie. Assuming there's two mafia left, we don't have much choice.

yeah

Its us 3 besties, The silent musketeers,Fairy Mc Lynch ,Vanilla Meowy and Uwu Sylvie

imo here’s my list

19:15

towny: GameCube, mih, kokichi, zach, meowy eh: Sylvie scummy sus bad guys: Jimmy, fairy

Mine is like the exact same omg

19:16

Have we been playing the same game or what

19:17

Regarding sylvie i still don't understand what she did yesterday

I’ve seen her behave exactly the same as town….so

19:17

I’m null on them

I have no explanation for it

19:18

Was odd to not vote after 50% of the conversation that day was about not doing that

19:18

Not vote kynch*

19:18

:(

I thought she kinda just gave up after pushing on me and just voted no lynch for a meme

she just makes a very good jester

19:20

but as town or scum uh

19:20

no comment

~~I thought the whole mih claimed jailor thing was a joke for half of that convo~~

So let's say Fairy is the big bad here, why target MusicalFoxes?

Well i did say that

You brought up the Vigilante thing I know

Mafia could have targeted musical so fairy would be sussed for it but i could see fairy doing that on purpose

personally? because if mrawry died and fairy was alive they’d be sussed even more

The kill last night was probably chosen due to the plan we made

You did openly say Fairy could be Mafia yesterday so killing you would have increased suspicion on Fairy

that and musical was super towny towards end of day yesterday

Well yeah but its me saying it cmon

the whole “omg I thought I had access to the mafia chat” thing lol

My message was directed to Mrawry

19:24

I should have replied to make it more clear

yea we’re saying the same thing

19:24

I get u

I was expecting myself or Mrawry to die

I was also expecting myself to die

Yeah tbh i was expecting one of you to go

MIH

Mafia could have targeted musical so fairy would be sussed for it but i could see fairy doing that on purpose

really just a case of wifom here

Omg

oh hi kokichi

kokichi

19:27

Kokichi what's your opinion on the game so far

19:27

any spicy reads

19:27

or gossip

or snacks

I'd love a snack tbh

tea

TEA

19:28

i like tea very much

there was a debate about this emoji

19:28

19:29

whether it was a teacup or knife

Yeah i voted knife

I also voted knife

19:29

like it has handles lol

The pink thing is a handle obv so

19:30

If it was a cup with would have probably been much more rotund

To wide for a cup

19:31

Not only is it too wide like you said that pink looks like handle

Exactly

19:32

Im glad we agree it would've been akward to have a teacup person in here

I was expecting to die because I was the one who voted Zilch that was not MIH

Im my own category on the victim probability

oh the jimmy vote thing?

Yeah out of anyone surviving it would be easy to pin evil on you

honestly if fairy is scum she’s probably the one calling the shots

Unless Jummy has been the big mastermind this whole time

If that's the case fairy had to do a lot of damage control so to speak on day two

19:34

JIMMY

19:34

DAMN YOU JIMMY

Fairy would definitely be calling shots with how much experience they said they had

I think we hear fairy out today

19:35

and if they’re sus let’s lynch them over jimmy

Im okay with this plan

Also it's a damn miracle Jimmy has survived two lynches

Yeah

19:36

Its also a miracle i survived two lynches

We can change that

I mean I just want the mih merch

GUYS NO IF YOU KILL IM NOT SHIPPING THE MERCH

Heeh

mih mafia t shirts

Hello

Omg sylvie?!?!

19:37

In real

19:38

And then she just votes me again and leaves

hey sylvie

"Leafes"

19:39

That was a bad pun lynch me

okay

are we scaring ppl off

gottem

ppl seem to drop in and bounce

I can't help but talk though!

BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic

Heeh

Stayyy

Chatty McChitChat

19:40

I think some people just didn't even pay attention to most of what has been talked about

19:41

so they might be scared to join the convo bc of it

the three of us has probably already contributed to hundreds of messages today

That's very much true

19:42

Well atleast there's some of us who have a grip of the situation

19:43

Tomorrow im going to my friend's house for the day but il try to be as active as i can

Fairy has a lot of explaining to do

ill pop in from time to time and by evening ill be fully active

19:44

Fairy will probably have an extensive defense

I bet she’s going to claim a PR

Probably

19:45

If she claims cop that's gonna be a bit convenient

I think I'm going to vote early for now

ooh who are you voting

Take a wild guess

Uhm???

19:46

Yourself

MIH?

OMG

James

My god....

19:47

I knew it

19:48

It was James all along

speaking of James

Let's hope if someone quiet does have a role, they speak up if it's claimed

@ForeverBel can we assume that musical was not shot by a vig since they died from a “blunt blow to the head”

Good question

no

19:49

The death texts are flavor only now

19:49

And would be the same regardless of the killer

You really wanna get voted now huh

"vigilante" in this context does not necessarily imply a shooter

gee thanks zilch

Would Hajime have stuck his atenna in the victim then?

19:50

That's why he was a 1 shot he only had 1 ahoge in his hair

hell yeah

Na Hajime transformed into Izuru and obliterated his target!

Uhm pretty edgy

19:51

Anyways hello Exorcist Chongyun.

19:51

Hello again ,rather.

19:54

Omg Gamecube voted

That I did

Uhm when did we say we could vote huh?That was so unexpected of you

19:56

you are SUCH a wild card.

Well I did wait until the last few hours to vote last time

19:57

Just want to make my intentions clear to Fairy

A an early vote a day keeps the mafia away

Don't think voting Jimmy will accomplish much even though I've been advocating for it the most.

Im fine with both of them but we'll see how this develops

let’s see how Jimmy votes

Jimmy will litterally just pop in and vote wagon like the last 2 times most likely

will he vote for his own scum buddy tho?

19:59

hmhmhm

19:59

now we fill up the chat with more memes and unrelated stuff

Probably just bot vote anyone unless Fairy convinces inactive people to vote on of us

19:59

Not*

Fairy might try to get me lynched today

20:00

or she might go with the jimmy option who knows

Which is why I didn't think you'd be killed last night

Yeah Mafia is keeping me for the last lynch most likely

20:01

Lets hope it doesn't come to that

For now I'm going to go. I'll check back later to see if anyone else talks.

I myself an gonna go to sleep cuz i gotta wake up early so yeah

20:02

sorry i couldn't meme more

that’s ok good night besties

Good night then MafiaCat

I will say this though, if Fairy is bad why would she go after Zilch knowing that his innocence would make her look bad?

tbf she missed the latter half of day 2

20:11

when the three of us were game planning

I don't think that matters much. Even if we hadn't made a plan it would still be suspicious.

could just be trying to blend in

20:19

I mean by that logic I’d be the most suspicious for starting that wagon no?

20:19

that and jimmy and meowy who were also on the wagon

I have nothing to do in the server so I mean

Discuss for one

20:21

Read what people have said, give opinions

My opinion doesn’t matter in mother Russia

𝕋𝕙𝕖𝔹𝕞𝕚𝕞𝕪

I have nothing to do in the server so I mean

can you claim

20:26

are you vanilla town, etc and who your DR character is

Not helping your case much lol

I’m chiaki

𝕋𝕙𝕖𝔹𝕞𝕚𝕞𝕪

I’m chiaki

While you're here help me vote out MIH

Is there any proof

20:47

Now that's a question I like to hear

20:47

Do that later today when we vote

Is fairy just inactive or a mafioso

Probably just hasn't checked chat yet give her time

20:48

You have any thoughts at all about the game?

20:49

Or even about how you've been to most consistently accused person this game?

Not really

21:00

But I haven’t been that active

𝕋𝕙𝕖𝔹𝕞𝕚𝕞𝕪

Not really

So you don't have anything to say about the accusations against you?

Gamecube

So you don't have anything to say about the accusations against you?

I can say it’s not me

21:08

Bc I’m a town’s person

Ok im back

21:17

I didnt leave

21:17

I just Got distracted

21:17

As Indo

Lol

By the way what do we think of chiaki. In the game or anime she is quite the mainstay/ plot twist and a fan favorite, I don’t think chiaki would be vanilla town

23:56

And I can certainly see a twist on both hope and despair as flavor for this game

Considering Hajime was Vigilante it is possible.

Gamecube

While you're here help me vote out MIH

Wow i see how it is huh

you got me

Aww well i can't stay mad that was pretty quirky

00:32

Also I don't really trust uhm Jimmy Chiaki poop

00:33

but

00:33

atleast we have something to work with

Albeit not much

Yeah

00:39

wait

00:39

did he mean

00:40

vanilla town or just town in general

00:40

if he just meant "Im town" then that's even less to work with

I probably should have questioned more while Jummy was around

DAMN YOU JIMMY!!!!

But it's funny how he asked for proof

Anyways regarding the chiaki thing he's either lying or is a PR himself but i doubt that

00:43

i can't really what Pr chiaki would be?

00:44

Maybe cop or mason if that's even possible rn with thr combinations we got but yeah

Considering Hajime was Vigilante I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility

00:44

Since there's a role thing for mafia does that mean town has one too?

wdym role thing

Not sure what's it's called let me fi d it

Rawry

TTT (goon, goon, RB, SK) TTTTT (goon, GF, SK) T (goon, RB, GF, SK)

This

Oooh

00:46

well yeah

00:46

since we know how much power maf could have

00:46

aka

00:46

those 3 possibilities

00:46

we know how much power we can get

00:47

and since we've already narrowed the vigi its just those 3 possibilities

All I see on the wiki is the likelihood of each individual pr

well from what i understand

helloo bestie

each role gets a letter and they get individually rolled

00:49

omg hello

do you even sleep at night

I slept the 4 hours

00:49

Anyways

you need beauty sleep

So we can't predict which roles we have

Since we already have a V

oh yea so those combinations above

00:50

and a V

00:50

we prolly don’t have any M (mason)s

00:50

cause if 1 rolled it would have been announced

00:51

there could be 2 MM but nobody’s softed it so I’m assuming no M

Basically gamecube the more good roles the more powerful evil roles

00:51

That's why the last option with only 1 T is the most powerful

00:52

Wait now that im saying

00:52

this

00:52

with how many vanilla claims we have

00:52

T is very unlikely

yeah

00:53

I think it’s TTT or TTTTT

wait omg

00:53

so i just actually read it

00:54

so there's 7 letters in each game

00:54

we have 3 already

00:54

since there could technically be 5 T's

00:55

that means that besides our vigi there has to be another powerrole somewhere

yep

That could be either another vigi, doctor or cop right?

yeah

00:56

but there's 5 Ts its probably another 1Shot

Can't say I understand it too much but what does that mean for bad guys

Each role gets a letter and then a roll happens,there can only be 7 letters rolled and if T is rolled its a vanilla and it's added to the TTT options above to determjne which evils are in the game

00:57

the rest could be other roles

00:59

We have

00:59

V = 1 shot vigi

01:00

Goon and Sk which bring the evils down to those 3 variants above

01:00

VTTT VTTTTT VT _

01:01

God dammit the spacing didn't work

Yeah serial killer part makes sense to me, some the options don't work since we know they exist

VTTT means there's space for 3 more prs max/atleast 2 VTTTTT means there's space for 1 more 1 shot of anything VT means there's space for 5 or less prs

01:03

That's why i said VT is unlikely since there have been a lot of vanilla claims so far

Well some claims could be power roles no?

01:05

Because going by that logic only like Mrawry and myself could be a power role

Hmmm

01:12

well yeah

01:13

you have a point

01:13

although

01:14

we technically have no evidence of a roleblock from town

01:14

no cop has come out

01:15

Mason is unlikely cuz like Rawry said i haven't really seen two people that seem connected

01:15

i feel like the masons wpuld have atleast tried to soft claim it

Pretty sure moderators announce those roles right away

01:16

Who the person is I mean

01:17

After looking at roles, is the second vigi killing Musical Foxes still possible?

I mean

01:17

technically possible

That would require a role blocker or doctor to be possible

Well yeah atleast a rb

01:19

Roleblocker has to have gone for Goon/Gf and then second vigi shot Musical

01:19

But why would second vigi do that

01:20

Like why go for musical if Zilch flipped inno

Only explanation being that they were not paying attention but it seems unlikely

The only option I'd see logical is that Fairy was vigi and shot Musical to confirm herself

I don't see there being 4 town power roles though

01:24

Well actually it's be 3

01:24

Vigi, vigi and role blocker

noooooo

04:27

hey @Gamecube explain the vote

MIH

The only option I'd see logical is that Fairy was vigi and shot Musical to confirm herself

lol I would never shoot them

04:28

so musical outed vigi yesterday, that's why he was shot

04:28

I was hoping they wouldn't see it but yeah, it was pretty obvious

musicalfoxes

so...we are all talking in the same area and i don't know how to contribute. say i could kill someone...do we have any despair suspicions?

here

musicalfoxes

i feel like i'm a newb and i'm revealing too much about myself but idk how else to garner information lol

and here

04:30

They were new so I said this a little after those comments, was hoping they'd hide: "We can talk broadly about PRs and PR actions but don’t reveal roles unless you have info or are getting lynched"

04:32

So when zilch voted the vigi claimer I was like lol mafia outing, but I was wrong

04:35

Strategy for town: PRs can start to out now and ask for doctor protection, and if you're a one shot and haven't done your action please do it on night 3, if every player talks through what they think PR night actions should be it can hide roles

I suggest that cop is careful of who they vote for today and checks their biggest susses instead of voting them, as they might get killed tonight

Gamecube

Because going by that logic only like Mrawry and myself could be a power role

stop gamecube we all know you're just VT

Fairy Boots

lol I would never shoot them

It doesn't matter cuz you're not vigi bestie

04:51

Also hello fairy

04:51

forgot to say that first

Yeah but also I wouldn't shoot the other vigi claim

04:52

Morning bestie

Fairy Boots

I was hoping they wouldn't see it but yeah, it was pretty obvious

That makes it even more interesting!Maybe you noticed(evil mafia) and killed musical!

04:55

Zilch was clearly too preoccupied to even noticed what musical was saying anyway he was defending himself for like the whole day

MIH

That makes it even more interesting!Maybe you noticed(evil mafia) and killed musical!

I wouldn't have shared my info openly if I were maf

04:59

I do think it's interesting that you and gamecube were so active yesterday but missed a PR claim

04:59

I find that hard to believe

Not you accusing me bestie

05:00

im sure lynching another town will be amazing

05:00

especially for your reputation

What

But rest assured i don't want you to get lynched for now

05:00

since imn tons more sus onnjimmy

05:01

DAMN YOU JIMMY

I voted someone who wanted to use anti-town strategies, and then voted the vigi claim

05:01

In this game

05:01

Man do I have to explain it again

05:01

It's really sus that you'd sus someone for a mislynch like that

Fairy Boots

I wouldn't have shared my info openly if I were maf

You defenetly could have just so you can say this

omg wine

wifommm

05:02

but in all seriousness, I just know that I sussed you all last game and you turned out to be villager

If you lynch me you're gonna be hit with the same realization once more

Ok MIH, lead the lynch

Jimmy!

Why

05:03

I was wrong yesterday so I am happy to step back

Voted on both wagons just for the sake of voting,i don't really believe his chiaki claim either

05:03

Im not saying im completely right

05:03

im just going with my gut

05:04

i was willingnto vote jimmy since day 1

I need to think about it more

He's mostly inactive and if he just votes with wagon everytime it doesn't really help does it

He only knows Sam before this game so talking with him is NAI

05:04

I mean true

It litterally looks like he pops up just to vote and then leaves

05:05

and like now he claimed town?I should've asked if he meant vanilla or not

Yeah I'm happy to vote people that if they flip town it's like "oh but you weren't gamesolving anyway" like zilch

but Chiaki is an important character

If a 1 shot has used their action... PLEASE CLAIM TODAY... we need that info. If you haven't then you should use it tonight because you could die

Im curious

05:06

Fairy

05:07

do you believe musical was rbed

rbed?

05:07

i mean it's possible

Now that you've pointed that message out

05:07

i find it odd they didn't shoot anyone

but it's likely they weren't shooting til night 3

05:07

because they didn't feel like they were in danger

05:08

they're also new

hmmm

05:08

wait

and probably afraid of getting the shot wrong

but if musical got killed for softing vigi

05:09

why didn't the same happen to someone else here who sort of implied they were Pr

05:09

im not gonna say who obv in case they're telling the truth

05:09

but im curious how they weren't targeted after saying something like that

zilch (VT WHAT LMAO, D2) wanting town to make bad plays, claiming to have logical reasons but actually illogical, poor reactions to being sussed, BDE, on top of everything is voting the vigi claim WHAT WHAT WHAT musicalfoxes (1 SHOT VIGI, N2) vigi claim, have to see how this goes... lol zilch is voting for them it's definitely bye bye zilch... ok :myheadhurts:

05:12

lol these are my notes for them btw ^

MIH

why didn't the same happen to someone else here who sort of implied they were Pr

MIH, there isn't time to target every PR claim

05:13

there have been two nights

05:14

why are you fishing so hard for this though MIH

05:14

please don't talk about PR claims unless they're willing to out or you have general strategy in mind (like "cop check x")

Ugh whatever i can't develop on it know cuz it'll be ooobvious but whatever

05:17

among us

05:18

Wait actually i do have a question

05:18

for you ofc

05:18

omg

05:18

in the spotlight

05:18

Anyways

05:19

Idk if you have a list or anything like that

05:19

but

Gamecube

I will say this though, if Fairy is bad why would she go after Zilch knowing that his innocence would make her look bad?

A mislynch doesn't make people look bad by default lmao. Super sus thing to say. A mislynch can be sus if there's a shitpush, really stupid reasons behind their vote, it was "too easy" and they went after an easy target, they pushed out a claim, or they pushed out a really strong player

who do you suspect now

Funnily, what mafia usually does is go after people who lead mislynches... that's called a shitpush or "too easy"

Well duh

I'm actually really sus of @Gamecube trying to massage random sus into me, am a bit conflicted with what to do but I might release my notes on them before the end of the day

omg do you have notes on all of us

dude it's mafia, obviously

05:23

I take notes lol

Okay doctor Notes

05:23

Anyways

MIH

me?!

You are the hardest null I have ever known

05:24

I don't want to vote you rn because of last game

05:24

It fucked me up man

05:24

I was so sure you were just bad

Always be unsure of the sure

05:25

You never know what i might be hiding in my coat...It couod be vanilla or a gun

btw who the fuck is rimuru tempest

Zach

ohhhh

05:26

damn

damn indeed

05:26

Zach is the damn man

omg meowy and mrawry

05:27

just realised that I may have confused some of their notes

Omg that's so cray cray

05:28

Tidy them notes!

MIHeowy and MIHrawry

05:28

lololool

hehehe

eh both can be town, whatever

Fairy Boots

btw who the fuck is rimuru tempest

Old username

05:36

of mine

damn

I have questions for @MIH and @Gamecube... 1. Why are you guys townreading each other? 2. Why didn't you vote for zilch yesterday? Why did you think he'd flip town? 3. You guys were really active yesterday but didn't notice that someone claimed vigi?! Really?! Deduction

Omg i love being suspected

06:26

1.We mostly agree on most stuff that's been discussed especially the Jimmy vote but idk if Gamecube really trusts me that much i remember him mentioning a couple of time he isn't sure about me

06:26

2.Yeah i did

06:26

i told y'all yesterday why im changing my vote from Zilch

06:27

I genuinely believed he just didn't now why no lynch was suboptimal and that's why he argued so much to justify it

06:28

Obviously the more you argue the more you can dig yourself deeper but i still believed him to some extent

06:28

had he just agreed no lynch was bad and it was my fault than i probably would've kept my vote on him

06:30

3.I genuinely did miss it ,i skimmed trhough everything and didn't think much of it at the time.That would be my bad yeah

MIH

Well lets all vote no kill

what are your thoughts on no lynches now

Gamecube

It's not a smart strategy someone will change at the last minute to kill. I've seen it happen a lot.

and your thoughts on no lynches too

Fairy Boots

what are your thoughts on no lynches now

Well to be perfectly fair i don't really regret my decision on doing that.You and meowy explained why it was a suboptimal strat and i understood why

06:38

I can't undo my vote now can I

06:38

I just gotta own up to it

@Fairy Boots Were my answers good am i gonna get an A?

I need gamecube to reply

Oh omg i see what you're trying to do you sneaky link

Sneaky link?

MIH

Oh omg i see what you're trying to do you sneaky link

What do you mean?

Well i don't wanna ruin it now do i

09:19

i wanna see what gamecube answers as well

𝕋𝕙𝕖𝔹𝕞𝕚𝕞𝕪

Is fairy just inactive or a mafioso

LMAO Jimmy do you actually mean me? Or did you confuse names? "inactive" lul

09:27

Wait... seems like people think I've been silent or inactive? I have 22 pages of chat, am also in Australian timezone

09:28

I'll get my notes ready for the end of the day

09:28

If people have questions for me pls ask

Fairy Boots

LMAO Jimmy do you actually mean me? Or did you confuse names? "inactive" lul

I confused prob

Well yeah, I have 22 pages of chat this game

Why are people MIH

Dunno

1. I'm not townreading MIH, he doesn't have my unconditional trust yet. 2. I didn't think Zilch was evil and was more making a series of plays of bad plays. 3. I really don't know how I missed that

09:58

Oops @Fairy Boots

BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic

Why are people MIH

Cuz its just trendy

Also I wouldn't call that random sus. Check the conversation before where both MIH and Mrawry were sussing just as much as I was. Plus I wasn't even the one to bring the topic up MIH was.

Fairy Boots

I'm actually really sus of @Gamecube trying to massage random sus into me, am a bit conflicted with what to do but I might release my notes on them before the end of the day

Reply to this is the message above

Not you shifting the blame to me

10:12

I PLEAD THE FIFTH

I'm just pointing it out because "random sus" is not what happened there

Fairy Boots

I'm actually really sus of @Gamecube trying to massage random sus into me, am a bit conflicted with what to do but I might release my notes on them before the end of the day

I'd also like to hear your other susses. I'm not against you voting me but it's not something I can work with.

I don't think jimmy is knowledgeable enough about danganronpa to fake claim chiaki, and chiaki is most likely good

11:48

Fairy pushes too hard and is a lot meaner than I remembered from last game so I am voting them

All evils are given a fake character

I don't remember that? I think they can claim fake characters but not given one afaik

They are james mentioned it at one point

11:52

it wouldn't be fair if they weren't given fake ones since some might not know danagn

11:52

which would make Jimmy a possible maf

MIH

All evils are given a fake character

I don’t remember this either

12:09

@ForeverBel @Caitlin can you confirm

I did mention this; I believe it's also in game info. But yeah, evils have fake characters.

12:11

Told you !

so like

12:12

if you knew evils were given fake characters

12:12

why would you agree to role call

For curiousity

it’s so easy to give the fake character

12:15

and uh it’s a bit weird that fairy didn’t give their reads

12:15

but just started pushing gamecube and mih

12:15

I also missed the vig claim fwiw and I’ve been decently active

Tbf by the time i got back in the convo i was mostly reading what fairy had commented i really just missed musical's message

That's why I asked for other reads just saying me was kind of odd considering I've been considered town by everyone, Fairy included, all game.

just saying, last game when fairy was town she had a readslist on everyone

12:28

so kinda weird that we haven’t gotten those notes yet

She said she might publish their notes in me later

12:29

But only on me from what I saw

but like so

12:36

I definitely don’t think jimmy would have noticed the vig claim

12:37

considering how inactive they are

12:38

same with all the other less talkers like sylvie, zach, kokichi etc

Rawry

same with all the other less talkers like sylvie, zach, kokichi etc

Of course one of us could be lying about not seeing it. There's only a few people who could have noticed it and acted accordingly.

Guess who's home

13:10

back at home

13:11

Anyways

13:11

omg not the fairy wagon starting that's so crazy

Eggs

EGGS?

I'm going to work soon so I'll be off for a few hours. Hope Fairy comes back by then.

Gamecube

I'm going to work soon so I'll be off for a few hours. Hope Fairy comes back by then.

Good luck at work bestie

Rawry

but just started pushing gamecube and mih

I didn't push, I asked questions

15:44

I'm not voting @MIH or @Gamecube today for various reasons, I was questioning them, pls read

15:44

Yeah, I was trying not to die last game because I was PR, I don't care this game lmao

15:45

fwiw I'd try to slink into the background a bit if I were mafia or PR

15:45

So I will just rr now and claim VT

15:46

I am Yasuhiro Hagukare, Ultimate Clairvoyant... VT role

15:46

my predictions are always 30% correct... which sounds about right lmao

15:46

Like I guess it's just frustrating because bad play should be punished in this game

15:47

Hopefully you guys can read votes, voting someone who sussed someone incorrectly is a massive shitpush

15:47

So there should be lots of info

15:47

Oh, we have like 2 days, I will be around more

15:49

I think kokichi and mrawry are the most townie

15:49

I don't believe mafia will ever kill mih if he's town, so town should be prepared to kill him at some point or risk voting him on mylo

15:50

I don't think there's a cop because I would have been checked and cleared

15:51

Jk that's understandable

on that note, if we have a one shot cop and they checked someone and haven't said then they are throwing

15:52

MIH and gamecube are huge nulls for me but I want to assess that on day 4 for various reasons

Omg im like 100% town self confirmed

didn't mind the responses, I also find it extremely hard to believe that everyone missed the vigi claim

15:52

clearly mafia saw it as well, unless they voted him for a totally different reason

I bet the majority of us didn't see it anyway cuz it kinda got buried

15:53

not to mention some people here don't even

15:53

read anything

15:53

that happens

Jimmy is in my POE and I don't mind the arguments for him, he isn't gamesolving so I am ok with the vote

15:54

He is hard claiming VT and I am a more valuable VT so I will also vote him to self pres

Yeah like i said even of y'all think he is good or something he still isn't helping us much is he

I am also unlikely to get killed by mafia now because of the sus, so will need to get killed by town at some point

omg fairy we're twinsies

I cannot claim PR, so at least if you kill me you aren't killing someone with extra powers

15:55

lol

15:56

I don't know how i am more sus than MIH or Jimmy or Sylvie

15:56

lol

15:56

The one person I want to consider today is really Sylvie

I don't understand what Sylvie is dooooing so i also wanna discuss more on it

They are playing very differently to last game when they were VT

15:56

Yeah

15:56

Like

Fairy Boots

I don't know how i am more sus than MIH or Jimmy or Sylvie

Im like super innocent

Bandwagons and easy susses, I am usually a bit funny about

15:57

Like that vote on you yesterday MIH, Sylvie hard sussed you but then was scared to vote you

15:57

And voted a no vote

15:57

like wot

I thought it was like a joke after the push kinda failed

Well I dno what it was, maybe it was too weird for mafia

only you and musical especially backed her up there wasn't much to bring up besides the fact that im extremely chaotic

On that note, my only defence is that I have been too direct and focused on gamesolving to be mafia

imo sylvie is more cautious with their votes as maf

Mafia is pretty easy, you just have to suck dick and not do anything

15:58

Which is not what I am doing lol

i think Sylvie doesn't really care about this game tbh

they were town last game and everyone thought they were traitor lmao

YEAH ikr

15:59

They were being really... sweet and loopy is how I'd descrbe it

15:59

Not this game

fairy if you flip town I want to check gamecube

I will

15:59

Are you voting me?

I’m undecided for now

16:00

initially I thought jimmy

Where is my partner equity atm for you?

but jimmy flip doesn’t give us much info

I thought I had PE with jimmy

16:00

What info do I give?

Its you and me fairy

16:00

togheter forever

I’d like to think mih is town for now

Yeah I dno, I haven't been playing sus at all

16:01

I only played one game as PR

16:01

I am just playing my regular townie game

you feel different from last game just a gut read

Well yeah, I am VT

but then again I’ve only played like 2-3 games with you

No, you have played 1

16:01

You were mafia last game correct?

Ive played only 1 and fairy didn't even trust me first time we talked

ma9?

ya that and the special game

16:02

though I think I was dead

Well, teh special game I was a sub

16:02

I didn' play

by the time you replaced lol

Literally missed a night action, then got told where to vote on the last day

Fairy Boots

I thought I had PE with jimmy

You had pee with me?

And I was PR

16:02

partner equity

well look who it is

I was PR in 1.25 games I played

16:02

SO you don't know how I play as VT

16:03

I play like this, which is regular VT

MIH

well look who it is

It’s mug

Sticking my neck out, voting

Mih*

mug

Leading lynches is not typical mafia play

16:03

Jumping on bandwagons is

Hey wait a second

16:03

ahem

16:03

excuse me

16:04

you said i could be mafia trying to distract and be out there and all to make you think im not mafia wouldn't that also be possible for you!

You aren't leading lynches

I am leading the jimmy lynch

16:05

DAMN YOU JIMMY

16:06

Wait so if you claim Vt as well

16:06

wait i gotta look for that claim list

Claimslist Mih - Vanilla Town (town) “angie” Kokichi - Vanilla Town Meowy - Vanilla Town “sonia” Zach - Vanilla Town Fairy - Vanilla Town “yasuhiko” Sylvie - “tenko” Jimmy - “chiaki” No Claim Gamecube

16:08

I’m moving gamecube down to no claim

16:08

cause they made a huge deal about not claiming vanilla townie

@𝕋𝕙𝕖𝔹𝕞𝕚𝕞𝕪 are you vanilla town or do you have an ability

MIH

@𝕋𝕙𝕖𝔹𝕞𝕚𝕞𝕪 are you vanilla town or do you have an ability

Vanilla

SO I think that gamecube is a bad vote today, revisit on day 4

Okay that clears that up ig

Ty are why I’m never here

16:09

That’s

16:09

jummy go back to your hole

16:09

Anyways

I want to be clear that my ability is "Unsurprisingly, you're failing classes pretty badly, however, you do have a useful ultimate talent - your predictions are always 30% correct"... which sums up my game thus far lmao

So that leaves

so like we were saying the possible rolls so far was

16:11

TTT (goon, goon, RB, SK) TTTTT (goon, GF, SK) T (goon, RB, GF, SK)

16:11

based on high # of vanilla claims

16:11

we could have TTTTT+V+? (not M)

yeah

16:12

and that could technically be Sylvie since tenko seems like a bodyguard to me

16:12

that is

16:12

if sylvie wasn't lying about tenko

16:12

but i doubt that's the case

if that’s the case we could have 1 shot cop, doctor, vig, roleblocker

16:17

1 shot cop is useless since GF is left

16:18

doctor would be a nice to have

16:18

but RB would be amazing

16:19

can basically block someone sus every night and if no maf kill they should claim

I don't think we have a one shot cop or they would have checked and claimed already

16:26

It isn't the child, prolly not masons

MIH

and that could technically be Sylvie since tenko seems like a bodyguard to me

why would you say that dude

16:27

don't out PRs like that pls

Rawry

TTT (goon, goon, RB, SK) TTTTT (goon, GF, SK) T (goon, RB, GF, SK)

omg ok so mafia actually have way more info then us about set up

16:27

thAn*

hmmm

16:32

hmmmmmmmmmmm

16:32

thinking....thinking

16:34

i wanted to say something but then i realized that's there's arguments for both so im not gonna bring it up anymore

yeah, so there's a reason why when I noticed the vigi claim yesterday I didn't say anything or draw attention to it until it was confirmed, in fact I asked him not to confirm it

16:45

We need enough info to solve, but if we give away too much we give mafia too much info

16:46

Claiming VT is pretty silly, I hope that if we have another PR they claimed VT and that we didn't leave the PR all alone in the cold

Hehehe

I had to claim my role because I was getting voted

16:47

Otherwise as VT my aim is to get killed by mafia

16:47

Hopefully get a maf on the way out

Mhm

16:48

we have to do our duty and die

Well, I mean, get killed by mafia

16:48

You don't get killed by mafia if you did what you did though MIH lol

What if i do get killed by them wouldn't that be hilarious

Oh also, if you go back to where the vigi softclaimed, right after I specifically start talking generally about PRs and when and how they should claim... indirectly telling the vigi to stfu and not confirm

16:49

If I were mafia I'd have baited them into claiming or tried to get more info, not deprive myself of it

16:50

Then I immediately came out and talked about it when I woke up

16:50

this is probably the best argument for how blue my blood is

Hmmm

16:51

Maybe someone lied about not noticing it

It's really bad to do what I did if I were mafia

16:51

Well obviously lol

I mean i doubt any of the inactives have seen it tbh

I had no reason to overshare that info if I were mafia

16:52

@Meowy @Gamecube if you care look up there, prolly the best argument I have for my towniness ^

MIH

I mean i doubt any of the inactives have seen it tbh

Which is an amazing segway onto my next point

It could actually be a red herring though, maybe gamecube was onto the correct susses

which i just decided to actually talk about

Ugh not gamecube, the dude that died

Now then

Hey lol sorry, go on

np

Imma dig into the vigi's game

anyways so what i was gonn bring up is

16:54

that i was thinking that mafia most likely has someone who has talked a lot here or atleast has not been mostly dead

Like I seriously stuck with zilch because I thought it was SO SUS TO BE VOTING THE VIGI CLAIM... I had the MOST legit reason to stay on them

i guess it depends on wether musical's death was intentional or not

If apparently no one else noticed the vigi claim, you're voting the person who did notice it and was voting out people who sussed them

personally i believe one of the inactives would've probably gone for rawry

ok why?

Because they wouldn't have read the chat to begin with

Maybe, inactives can also be reading but just not typing

some of them don't even care about the game i doubt they'd try and look into our convos

16:56

I mean it shouldn't be completely ruled out

There is the fake afk strat, I hope no one uses it around here

but

16:56

i believe someone else here noticed that message from musical

every single person replied to their pings

16:56

I tested as much yesterday

16:56

to see who was truly inactive and didn't care, and everyone replied

16:57

I had the same line of thinking, but like... after that just nah

16:57

I baited kokichi so hard lmao

16:57

everyone is here

This is kinda why i didn't wanna bring it up originally cuz there's plenty of possibilities for the inactives to also be mafia if you look at it both ways but yeah i just wanted this to be out there in case anyone agrees or idk whatever

I had the same line of thinking for sure

16:58

I think it's a good thought

The game is defenetly getting interesting though so that's very good

16:59

I don't know who to trust anymore omg

I don't understand all the weird characters

17:03

Are they relevant?

17:03

Like, do we look them up and try to guess who would be mafia?

17:03

Or are they just random?

17:04

I mean, I don't think they're random, mine is so fucking accurate lmao

They're not tailored to the players more so to the rules

17:04

in dangan hajime for example shoot truth bullets to break trhough lines as a gameplay mechanic

17:04

so im assuming that's why he got chosen as a 1 shot vet

"Unsurprisingly, you're failing classes pretty badly, however, you do have a useful ultimate talent - your predictions are always 30% correct"

17:05

MIH

in dangan hajime for example shoot truth bullets to break trhough lines as a gameplay mechanic

oooh ok that's fucking cool

17:05

everyone out characters pls I need to read up on them

Do you want me to just copy and paste the description or what

Copy & pasting stuff from rolecards, fakeclaims, etc. isnt allowed

17:36

Or any mod communication

yeah I think so

17:36

lol or not

17:37

@Caitlin I copy pasted a sentence is that allowed

Okay ill just talk about what it says

17:37

so

17:38

im Angie Yonaga

17:38

the ultimate artist

17:38

Im a religious person who believes in my one and only god Atua

17:38

and i believe he creates the art,using my body as his vessel

omg who is atua

Its the god she believes in

OMG

17:39

GODFATHER

17:39

LMAO

confirmed

LMAO

Also

in the game she forms a cult and the role card makes a nod to it which was funny

bruh

17:40

bruh bruh bruh

17:40

which one these guys is atua

With the help of Atua and hopefully new devotees your goal is to eradicate despair and bring peace!

17:41

So uh yeah who wants to be Atua's devotee guys omg

dude that's so fucking funny

17:41

I dno what else to read into that apart from goon

17:42

and that someone here is atua and is godfather

Atua is not a character in the game

oh lol

but that is pretty funny though ill give you that

day 3 I actually start to get conspiracy crazy so I like to step back a bit

tbh if she were to be a role she would probably be a vampire cuz converting and all but that's not in the rolelist

Day 1 I tend to have pog reads, and I wanted to grill the SK and goon on Day 2 but they died Night 1

17:43

Day 2 average

17:43

Day 3 conspiracies

17:43

then I usually die

17:43

But if I don't, I usually win day 5/6

17:43

Sometimes I win very quickly

yeah uh

17:44

win now

17:44

cmon do it

I'd have voted SK or goon on day 1 but I wasn't here lol

17:44

I meant to come back but I've been sick

17:44

Everyone voted goddamn no vote

No vote pacifist run

ALSO SECOND POINT... I've been telling people NOT to no vote, mafia would just laugh and let people play badly

Vegan town we don't take lives❤️

Man I think ppl haven't read my game at all lmao

i have i believe you fairy

I can't tell you how suboptimal my plays would be as mafia with this texture of players

17:46

lol thank you mih

17:47

Everyone is sus to me except basically kokichi funnily

17:47

and I think mrawry is townie still

and me.

MIH if you and I somehow get to mylo I would be voting you

And you'd be subsequently losing

yup

17:48

probably lol

we both would.

dammit mih I hope you're town, if they get me and then you're town they'll prolly vote you as well and then I don't think we can win

That is true....

17:49

We have to make the right calls!

I do want to vote Jams... he's in my POE, isn't progressing the game anyway, logical arguments for the vote (bandwagoning etc) are good, and I will be voting to self pres if I have to

17:50

Jimmy

17:50

not jams wtf lol

Omg you're voting with a confirmed mafia?pretty sus fairy...

actually with mrawry

17:51

tell me who atua is goddammit

its like a god she mentions in the game every couple of lines

also people aren't going to be reading shit and they're gonna miss all the reasons I am not sus, just like they already have

17:51

A GODFATHER

17:51

you caught me.

17:52

i confess.

Mih I swear to fucking God if it's you I will die of laughter

i am the godfather.

my head man

you've broken trhough my intelligent ruse

17:53

and i would've gotten away with it too if it weren't for me talking

anyway @Meowy and @Gamecube... please look above for reasons why I am clearly just VT, if you have any more questions lmk... if it's me today pls ping me so that I can give a full lowdown of my notes, I'll actually give my PR susses as well because if they end up not being PR they might just be scummy, and town can still win without PRs

Yknow what's super funny

mih dude that's so fucking funny

even if there have been guesses

17:56

i don't think anyone here has actually figured out what i am for sure

17:56

you never know in the end

17:56

yeah that'd be correct

17:56

it's not great to play like that as any role

17:56

you basically want to appear like VT as every role

Mafia probably hasn't figured it either

mafia knows you aren't mafia though, so they have more info than town

17:57

which isn't great

Or mafia could know im mafia

confusing town is not good

17:57

omg

Lets kill everyone guys before they figure us out!

17:57

oops

17:58

scum slip

I swear dude

Im like so elusive!

whatever role you are, the reveal is going to crack me up

Oh my god trust me

17:59

you're gonna die of laughter at the end

17:59

or whenever i die

17:59

although godfather is immune so ig i can't die

no godfather is immune to shots not lynches

18:00

actually wait a fucking second what if vigi did shoot

18:01

WHAT IF VIGI DID SHOOT siren_red

18:01

I didn't even think of that

18:01

mih I think they would have shot you lmao

They did but i survived it cuz im cool and awesome

I say we still kill inc

Please

18:07

Sylvie why do you hate me omg

Ok so I am just going to ask because if so this should be outed anyway, Sylvie do you have a check on MIH?

18:11

This actually makes a lot of sense, the push and you are the only one who hasn't claimed VT, it makes sense that you would have checked them N1 and tried to vote them Day 2

18:12

And they wouldn't kill you because it will reveal the role and they get outed

18:12

and then mih came in and pretended to not see the vigi claim

18:13

and also apparently their character prays to a GOD(father?)

18:13

@BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic is this crackpot conspiracy or real

Fairy my faifth in you is going down after reading that....

ALSO mih has been trying to out you as a PR

18:15

MIH mafia wouldn't come up with crackpot conspiracies, it's too much of a deathwish

18:15

you've played enough to know that

18:15

I'm asking if Sylvie has a red check on you

18:15

For the reasons I stated

Wdym omg I've never played mafia i thought we were playing charades

omg phasmo

18:16

anyways

I can't change my name from gw

doesn't your theory make like zero sense anyway omg

18:17

i mean how could Sylvir bestie be a cop anyway

I can't remember what our club was mih, but I want to assure everyone I am not an r/gonewild girl

You said a different thing in the mafia chat last night you liar!

It actually makes sense, if Sylvie is the one shot cop they definitely could have checked you n1

18:18

That's why me/zilch didn't get checked last night

But Sylvie can't be a 1 shot cop due to her character

or me and whomever else it was actually

Becaue IM THE COP

OMG WHO DID YOU CHECK

oh oopsie did not mean to spill that one out L.O.L

MIH

i cheked gamecube and you

omg what is gamecube

it came up town for the both of you

why didn't you say anything earlier

cuz i was trying to hide why do you think im so chaotic omg

DAMMIT DUDE THIS IS WHY I WAS LIKE WAIT TIL DAY 4

Fairy im joking

But I actually thought that maybe gamecube was the cop and had checked musical last night instead of me

18:21

oh

18:21

ok

18:21

well

Hahahaha

18:21

pranked

18:21

gottem

whatever it's there now

it would've been more fun if i was PR though

18:22

Vanilla is so boring i don't get to do anything besides talk

I thought maybe gamecube had checked you n1 and then musical

I wonder if i have been cheked

Like, you are SO sus MIH... people who side with you are either cop who checked you or mafia

hopefully nott

18:23

I told you all not to check or shoot me!!!

Mih no joke, you were also possible PR because your play only makes sense as PR

18:23

if you are town

18:24

this is why I was like "mafia will never kill you you're too sus"

It does doesn't it

18:24

Anyways

18:24

i see you've voted jimmy boy

doesn't matter, you are actually just VT

18:24

well yeah I thought you were cop

What if i am and I just double pranked you

yeah Imma stay on jimmy

18:26

for this

18:26

and the reasons mentioned earlier

18:26

bruh we are talking SO MUCH no one is going to read the important stuff

18:26

about why I am innocent etc

18:27

let's shh now so that everyone has a chance

Guys if you want a quick summary from above Fairy just confessed to the kurders of Fairy and Musical!

18:28

murders *

I am Fairy

18:41

Also not at all what happened

MIH

although godfather is immune so ig i can't die

I don’t think GF is immune to vig shots in this setup fwiw

20:43

the role card doesn’t say anything about having def

20:48

I’m a bit more null on fairy now

20:48

But I do not like the jimmy vote

20:49

feels like we’re going after low hanging fruit

20:49

@ForeverBel @Caitlin does GF have def to vig shots in this setup

It doesnt

20:50

Only investigative immunity

ok thanks

21:04

so reading fairy’s defense I feel like the whole “pointing out the vig” claim is all wifom

21:05

but I do find their reaction to MIH’s “reveal” more towny than not

Fairy Boots

MIH if you and I somehow get to mylo I would be voting you

can we actually vote mih today

21:06

I don’t want to take them to late game

@BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic come vote mih

21:14

@Gamecube @Meowy you two too

Rawry

so reading fairy’s defense I feel like the whole “pointing out the vig” claim is all wifom

dunno what else to say, it isn't, it wouldn't help my mafia game to stop them from elaborating yesterday (which denied mafia info in an attempt to save them) or to point out their claim today... have some free info

21:24

I think MIH is a fair vote... mylo is either on day 5 (if 2 maf) or day 6 (if 1 maf) so we need to vote them either today or tomorrow

Fairy Boots

@BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic is this crackpot conspiracy or real

Crockpot

Ok lol good good

21:25

I would have loved that, I would have thought I was the smartest person alive for the next 48 hours

Alright back from work

Hello hello

Just finished reading everything as well

since most ppl think mih is sus

21:26

I would like to lynch them to clear any confusion up late game

So we have the most info possible, it's about time admit to being one shot cop. Don't get your hopes up on who I investigated.

If we have a one shot cop that checked MIH they need to claim

21:28

OMG LOL

Lmao

DUDE

21:29

When MIH claimed cop I said "But I actually thought that maybe gamecube was the cop and had checked musical last night instead of me"

21:30

How many points to Gryffindor do I get

ok so

21:31

I claim vanilla townie

What's your character tho

I investigated Mrawry on night 1. Day 1 MIH was begging to be investigated me but didn't because Godfather was something I was considering. I didn't suspect Zilch either so I went for Mrawry. Wish I waited because morning of day 2 Fairy said Mrawry was acting town which I had no way of knowing.

21:31

Mrawry appears innocent

YES

komaru naegi, ultimate little sister of hope lol

Oh I mean damn

21:32

Yeah

so I have been saying there’s probably not too many PR’s

I'm Shuichi

cuz I’m like a main character

21:32

with no power lmao

I didn't bring this up on day 2 because Mrawry was already agreed to be town so I didn't wanna put them in danger.

Yeah, or you, and neither of you were getting lynched

21:34

Ok cool, sorry if I was grilling you before... just you voting me was odd, you sounded PR but hadn't claimed and I thought you would have done a check by now, that's why I said "waiting until tomorrow", scum and PR can sound similar

since nobody else has claimed PR we very likely have a case of TTTTT+V+C (goon, gf, sk)

Yeahhh was just typing the same thing

21:35

Which means that your check is useless anyway because SK did the work for us

21:36

So you've been a vanilla townie all game

21:36

Damn I was really hoping for RB or doc

21:36

btw I am Yasuhiro Hagakure... Clairvoyant... "Unsurprisingly, you're failing classes pretty badly, however, you do have a useful ultimate talent - your predictions are always 30% correct"

I've caught up on all the messages

what do we think of a mih lynch

21:37

even if they flip town

21:37

they’re dangerous to keep around late game

Probably valuable, but if that's our setup then mylo is on Day 6, so we can lynch them day 5 at the latest

21:38

I agree very much

I don’t think jimmy follows the chat enough to kill musical tbh

Well

21:38

This is the thing right

21:39

I had the same thought, so I tested this yesterday by pinging everyone. EVERYONE responded. EVERYONE is here. It's definitely possible that the "inactives" are just reading and not typing

you said so yourself you wanted to vote Jimmy to self preserve - so voting mih should have the same result for you

They responded in quick time as well

21:39

Yep it does

21:40

MIH is hard hard hard null, plus have been saying all game that if town they're dangerous late game and mafia will never kill them

Jimmy reads somewhat at least only answered me when I directly replied or pointed out their inactivity

I still think some of the arguments for Jimmy are logical, the bandwagoning stuff. They were interacting with Sam but because they knew each other before I think that's NAI

Zach and Exorcist I don't really have an opinion on them. Just don't like that they are inactive because accrosing to them, they are town and don't know what to say.

Damn

Nooooo

I do actually think Exorcist is town

me too

Yeah more than Zach to me

I think they're horrible to play with because they're one of those "ugh I hate VT fuck this I am clearly not PR"

21:43

I hate that

21:43

VT is my favourite role

21:43

No pressure, you can speak your mind and it's like "oh no I am getting killed"

21:43

"who cares"

21:43

lol

21:43

Like I will self pres obviously because that's what I should do

Yeah I can't say I'm too fond of people doing that either

same but I’d gladly give my life to save a PR as VT

Yep same

so I can go all out as VT

Yeppppp sammmmmmme

21:44

Someone pointed out that I've been nicer before

21:44

And I'm like no shit, I was PR trying to fake clear everyone so that I didn't get killed

oh that’s meowy (and a little bit from me as well)

Only ever been PR before

you were way less “wot wot wot wot” before lmao

Yep lol

21:45

This is why Ward knew I was PR that last game

21:45

With people I know I try to have a bit more range

21:46

But like, I thought he was town

21:46

anyway that's unnecessary

21:46

Um I think it's basically auto at this point tbh

21:47

almost impossible for us to lose

Why is that?

numbers

21:47

and the amount of townreads we can get

21:48

So I have 4 townies right now (including myself)

21:48

2 definite, and 2 probable

21:48

(again including myself)

21:48

that's near half the players

The other confirm Mrawary?

so if we can townread well, mafia literally can't get enough kills

21:49

Yep

unless I’m actually GF

gotta throw in a bit of self preservation lmao

21:50

I do want to be alive for end game

I can't judge how they act compared to any other games, but you've seen more town than anything else

21:51

Directed to Mrawry lack of edit is a killer

me, gamecube (definites) kokichi, mrawry (probable) meowy, zach (null) MIH, jimmy (hard fucking null) sylvie (sussssss)

21:51

yeah same but I hardly ever am

you can 100% clear gamecube when I flip town

nah he's clear now, unless someone else counters

21:52

he's been softclaiming all game

Is it common for false claims in these longer games?

usually here ppl don’t fake claim

21:53

in these main games

21:53

special game is a different story

21:53

but in main games nah

Gamecube

And if the cop doesn't exist?

this is why you were my cop lol

21:53

there's no claimspace

21:53

in these setups

that and with 1 maf dead N1

yeah we chillin

there would be no appetite for them to risk fake claim

yep

oh btw did sylvie ever claim VT

no they didn't, but tbh why would they\

21:55

I only did when I was getting voted

I don't think they have

21:56

I should really be taking notes though

I got worried it was just sylvie and that town had actually all claimed

that's why I asked if they were cop

21:56

yeah always take notes

Most of my activity here was while riding o the bus so it's a little hard

man if there was no PR claim today I was going to accuse PR susses before I died lol... like "if they don't claim tomorrow pls just kill them"

you know what’s a bit weird though

Gamecube

Most of my activity here was while riding o the bus so it's a little hard

yeah fair

we have hajime, shuichi, komaru, but no makoto

Man I need to look all of these up

they’re basically the main characters

Gamecube

I don't see there being 4 town power roles though

Also if anyone caught this, I slipped up and counted cop with the other three riles needed for this scenario.

the good guys of the 4 DR games

Gamecube

Also if anyone caught this, I slipped up and counted cop with the other three riles needed for this scenario.

I saw this but I was like huh they probably miscounted lol

lmao did you see my "noooooo"

I just can't see there being 4 town power roles

in the future gamecube, push your check for as long as you think you can

22:01

Night 3 is the latest, I usually make it til Night 2 and get to reveal Day 3

yea especially for 1 shot

Yeah, you get more info based off interactions

Yeah I realized it was a mistake

It's all good, first time I ever played Vigi I shot the fucking cop N1 because I was scared

22:01

22:02

It was in video mafia

Mostly did it because I thought I was dying since people said I was the most likely town that day

Everyone laughed, it was amazing

22:02

Yeah, actually this is a cool point

22:03

Maybe you would have been but vigi claimed

22:03

Maybe it's all just random

It's a good thing I didn't do Fire, that was my next pick

yeah ikr fire was sus af

22:04

I wasn't sure if they were PR though

lmao guys remember zilch

22:05

who swore fire was town

22:05

then said I had shitty reads

22:05

I’m still low key annoyed by that

My actual notes: Fîrê (SERIAL KILLER, N1) has massive BDE, power tripping, scummy af... LOL

22:05

YEAH and tried to vote out vigi

22:06

btw that's why I stayed on zilch

for someone with YEARS of experience

AND the no vote on Day 1

22:07

Like everyone has bad games

that and telling the host to not show the killing faction

22:08

how much anti town can you be lmao

But it's weird to say someone has shitty reads before anything has flipped, it sounded really TMI

22:08

yes lol

This format is cool for mafia. Never played a game longer than a few hours so getting to discuss like this is nice.

Yeah agreed

I have a decent amount of experience with these games. I don't think I can read people as well as you all can especially when it comes to MIH. He is unlike anybody I've played with.

tbh mih is probably town but it’s more of a policy lynch than anything

Rawry

tbh mih is probably town but it’s more of a policy lynch than anything

Let's say Fairy and MIH are innocent who else is mafia? It surely has to be someone active because of the Vigi kill. Of course it could be luck like we said, but that's a boring outcome.

A

22:16

gain

22:16

A

22:16

omg oops sorry

I know I'm innocent and Mrawry I trust mostly. Doesn't leave many options

So, I had that theory yesterday too. That's why I tested everyone. Everyone responded immediately to pings and was able to be provoked into conversation. Mafia could be reading just not writing.

I’m 95% sure meowy is town mainly because he’s not saying stupid things

Right you think they were all reading

22:18

Meowy I don't suspect

that and I know him well

I think they could or couldn't, can't say

kokichi and zach are town to me

22:19

I really think it’s mih or jimmy lol

22:19

sylvie is playing like town

Jimmy to me is the most likely

a weird town but that’s how she rolls

But like I said I don't want to vote then just yet

There are a few issues with lynching all the active people. Firstly, active people are the gamesolvers, so if we kill all the good townies that's bad for us. Secondly, mafia want to take the people who are unsure and disengaged to the end. Thirdly, mafia will kill all the good active townies.

22:21

So, I think "it has to be someone who is typing all the time" isn't very good strat

22:21

Mafia tend to be... middlemen

Gamecube

Let's say Fairy and MIH are innocent who else is mafia? It surely has to be someone active because of the Vigi kill. Of course it could be luck like we said, but that's a boring outcome.

oh and I wouldn’t clear fairy just yet

Yeah that's fine

22:22

Just try to get people to the end who can win

22:23

I can think of a few combos that wouldn't be super great

Rawry

oh and I wouldn’t clear fairy just yet

Oh it was hypothetical I haven't cleared either

Fairy Boots

I can think of a few combos that wouldn't be super great

lmao zach, kokichi, sylvie, jimmy at late game would be funny

Yeah, that's prolly what it'll be

22:24

lol

-----

22:24

For the whole day maybe the occasional damn

Damn

Dude I hope he's mafia, would be so funny

22:24

Imagine if he is and he wins

22:24

ANd he just says

22:24

Damn

I'm not discounting the possibility

Like I think we've got it, but we have to make strategic kills because mafia is going to kill off active engaged players who are townread

So you're saying we should vote an inactive?

not exactly

22:27

We have to try and make sure everyone is engaging, so that we can make reads

Fairy Boots

There are a few issues with lynching all the active people. Firstly, active people are the gamesolvers, so if we kill all the good townies that's bad for us. Secondly, mafia want to take the people who are unsure and disengaged to the end. Thirdly, mafia will kill all the good active townies.

That's what I interpreted from this message

But then mid game I look at "middlemen" - they're the players that are standing behind leaders, bandwagoning, trying not to piss people off, a little bit quiet but talking enough to stay under the radar

22:29

Sam on Day 1 is a great example of this

22:30

This is why Sylvie is sus to me

Okay when I mean inactive, I mean anyone who isn't you, Mrawry, MIH or myself.

22:31

I do like middlemen though makes things more precise

I really don't know what to think about meowy, but I think mrawry is town and I'm happy to defer to their read on that front

Gamecube

Okay when I mean inactive, I mean anyone who isn't you, Mrawry, MIH or myself.

lol

22:31

I mean, if MIH isn't mafia then I know for sure it's not one of the louder ones, you guys can't know for sure

22:32

Unless mrawry is consig but I doubt it

22:32

***godfather sorry

22:34

the reason why I talk a lot is because when town is quiet and don't produce content they allow mafia to coast

22:34

they make it really easy for them to blend in and do nothing

22:35

so yeah, I'm going to vote MIH and then go nap

22:35

ping me if anything of note happens

Which is why I didn't want to vote MIH on day one, he was at least talking

was a pleasure serving you sir

22:35

Yep ^

oh mih will ping us don’t worry

hhaha awesome

HI BESTIE ❤️

22:36

such a cutie, such a good spirited person, I really do like playing with MIH

It's entertaining I'll give him that

I also quite like playing with mih

MIH appreciation club

I can't change my nickname otherwise I would be there somehow

22:39

FairMIH Boots

we’re supposed to get MIH merch

22:44

mih mafia shirts

I'd like to bring up MIH's request for people to lynch him instead of using investigate or vigi. My first instinct was that it was a plea for sympathy but I don't recall anyone else talking about it.

I saw that and though it’s a major AtE I do feel it’s towny

22:47

but again as mih said themselves it’s really really really easy for scum to pick on mih late game

Sorry feel like I'm always asking this. What do you mean by atE

oh appeal to emotion

Got it

Rawry

I saw that and though it’s a major AtE I do feel it’s towny

Just made me more suspicion than anything else

I will say I’ve never seen mih play as scum so I don’t have anything to compare against sadly

22:53

let’s just see how mih reacts to the wagon today

22:55

“OMG BESTIES HOW COULD YOU

”

"I FORGIVE YOU

Can't stay angry at you

ugh sad I’m probably going to get killed tonight

22:57

that’d confirm you though which is good

22:59

make sure you ping everyone and get them to make reads

I forget to do that a lot

23:02

We are probably the most likely to die. Can't see MIH or Fairy being killed.

Rawry

that’d confirm you though which is good

Killing me would be more effective since you wouldn't be cleared

nah then you’d flip 1 shot cop

23:04

and why would you lie about your results

23:04

sad either way

I'm not sure I get you're point. If I get killed, there's still a chance you're godfather. If you get killed, I get confirmed.

23:08

A lot of gets in that message

hm I guess so

Hehe

05:33

Im not gonna vote myself yet since i want to say goodbye to y'all

05:33

i was really genuine whenni told y'all to vote me today

05:34

i was just trying to get some stuff out of Fairy so you could trust her

05:34

I've had an amazing time here

05:34

and im glad y'all enjoyed me!

05:34

Whenever you want ill hammer myself

05:37

I don't anyone else to vote me i wanna hammer myself cuz its more quirky that way

05:41

@Gamecube @Fairy Boots @Rawry I THOUGHT I HAD FRIENDS BUT IT SEEMS I DON'T

I PUT MY HEART AND SOUL INTO THIS GAME AND YOU WANNA LYNCH ME??!?!?!?!?@IM COP,VIGILANTE,BODYGUARD,MASON,ROLEBLOCKER AT THR SAME FUCKING TIME AND NOT TO MENTION CONFIRMED???ARE YOU ALL THAT THICC IN THE HEAD THAY YOU CAN'T PIECE THIS TIGHETER HUUUUUYUHHHHHHHH

05:43

IM LIKE TOWN 24/7 AND I WORK TO SOLVE WHO'S MAF AND WHO IS NOT AND YOU ALL PUT MY WORK TO TRASH BY DOING THIS

05:43

I GRADUATED SOCIAL DEDUCTION SCHOOL I HAVE A DEGREEEEEEEEEEE

05:44

YOU CAN'T EVEN LYNCH ME JTS ILLLEGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL

05:44

❤️

✝️

❤️

✝️

05:50

Also thanks gamecube for not checking me

05:50

Atleast someone here listened

oh hey it’s MIH

05:51

how funny would it be if Jimmy came in and hammered

so jimmy

05:52

litterally jimmy behavior

05:52

i would hammer but i still wanna talk and i figured you guys need to talk more as well so yeah

05:52

no point wasting the day!

05:52

lets chat omg

MIH

i was just trying to get some stuff out of Fairy so you could trust her

this sounds like TMI btw - fairy’s still not clear by any means

Yeah but i got trust fairy a little while we talked

if she is GF (or whoever is for that matter) I’m just making the game harder for scum later on

i wanted to confirm for myself voting jimmy was right

05:54

wich doesn't really matter anymore

MIH

@Gamecube @Fairy Boots @Rawry I THOUGHT I HAD FRIENDS BUT IT SEEMS I DON'T

I PUT MY HEART AND SOUL INTO THIS GAME AND YOU WANNA LYNCH ME??!?!?!?!?@IM COP,VIGILANTE,BODYGUARD,MASON,ROLEBLOCKER AT THR SAME FUCKING TIME AND NOT TO MENTION CONFIRMED???ARE YOU ALL THAT THICC IN THE HEAD THAY YOU CAN'T PIECE THIS TIGHETER HUUUUUYUHHHHHHHH

and we are friends duh

Omg yes

05:55

i just wanted to deliver a goodbye message hope that melted your heart❤️ ❤️ ❤️

sure it did

MIH

I don't anyone else to vote me i wanna hammer myself cuz its more quirky that way

if you had stopped here lmao

It would've been boring omg

06:00

this isn't supposed to sad its supposed to be funny!

yes yes it was funny

Anyways who will you guys be going for after me

we probably don’t have any more PRs to give us info

H yeah

if it were up to me I’d be grilling fairy and jimmy every day

06:03

everyone else feels towny

wish this would've gone a bit differently tbh but its my fault

06:04

while talking to fairy i was trying to do the whole no one knows my role not even mafia

06:04

that's what the cop claim was for too

06:04

i was trying to make them wonder if i really am vanilla

06:05

I mean you guys will still be surprised once my flip happens

eh not really ppl make mistakes

06:06

like we had anti-town no lynch zilch

06:06

and no-shot vig musical

hehe guess im not that bad then

06:07

hey i tried discussing stuff and being here so i wasn't that bad

06:07

Hey out of curiosity

06:07

what do you think my role is

I’m 80% sure you’re vanilla town

06:08

I townread you more than others here

hehehehehee

and I’m expecting to die within next 1-2 days

06:08

that’s why I can’t keep you around for late game

omg death expectancy

you’re my bestie and all

also yeah that's understandable

but it’s too easy of a mislynch

i told you all on day 2

06:09

i don't mind getting lynched today

06:09

that message did come across as sympathy though but why would i want sympathy anyway im just saying I'd be fine with sacrificing myself

06:10

if anyone else hammers me ill scream

06:10

especially jimmy

06:10

if jimmy hammers me ill explode in dead chat

whoever hammers is scum

06:11

lmao

06:11

there

gottem

06:11

wait omg i wanna hammer myself are you saying im scum?!?!?!

06:11

Framer much

06:11

framer claim

omg yes that must be it

06:13

I wouldn’t know because I don’t have a degree in social deduction like you do

06:13

Yeah exactly

06:14

omg

06:14

wait

06:14

ill get to meet zilch and musical

06:14

and fire and sam i guess we didn't get to bffs this game though

usually the main games don’t have a dead chat

06:16

but maybe you can bribe jaMIHes with some mih merch

06:17

I’ll join when I die too and we can watch the game

06:17

honestly with you and I in dead chat we’d probably be more active than the game itself

06:17

Exactly my god

06:19

in sp5 after i died i talked the most in dead chat

06:19

with a person who didn't like discord mafia

Oh my god im gonna die

08:47

(Pre death panic)

08:49

Nvm i just realized im gonna get an execution that's so hot

Ay ay ay im your little butterfly

08:59

green black and blue make the colors in the sky

Is it poem time?

gm

JIMMY

09:19

DAMN YOU JIMMY

09:19

This all happening because of you

MIH

This all happening because of you

what

Gamecube

Is it poem time?

i could write one if you want me to

i just woke up

YOU SHOULD'VE NEVER DONE THAT.

09:20

I WILL GET MY REVENGE

...

09:20

sus

Wdym

09:20

Im not sus

09:21

and looks who's talking

MIH

and looks who's talking

Jimmy johns

YOU ARE THE GOON AND GODFATHER AT THE SAME TIME

im jimmy

NO

09:24

NO WAIT

Jimmy was also the other goon and serial killer

HE HAMMERED

the man called me sus. i voted

JIMMY!

someone unvote I WANTED TO HAMMER MYSELF

09:25

DAMN YOU JIMMY DAMN YOU

09:25

WE LITTERALLY HAD ANOTHER DAY

09:25

Can't help there haven't voted

MIH

DAMN YOU JIMMY DAMN YOU

u called me sus

IM GONNA CHOKE YOU JIMMY

09:25

Unvote rn .

09:25

Unvote

i don't stand for the s word

Im gonna die at the end of the day anyway im gonna vote myself

09:26

remove the vote you goon

09:26

MAFIA SCUM

09:26

omg thanks

09:26

NO

09:26

NOOO

Both of you invite each other as a truce

STOP IT

I DON'T XARE ABOUT VOTING HIM

09:27

im litterally gonna get killed today cuz y'all think i shouldn't live longer omg

09:27

LET ME HAMMER MYSELF YOU MONSTEEEER

09:27

Unvote jimmy

09:27

unvote

09:27

you're gonna waste a day

Hey @𝕋𝕙𝕖𝔹𝕞𝕚𝕞𝕪 sus sus sus sus vote me now

STOP IT JIMMY

09:28

Look what he's doing!!!

MIH

Look what he's doing!!!

nothing

unvote rn you monster

09:29

kill him now

09:29

NOW

MIH

unvote rn you monster

im not a monster... im Jimmy

09:30

Yknow what that's it you get the vote on you back

09:30

YOU FIEND

In the end Jimmy is still your arch nemesis

Not only are you guys lynching me you're letting him hammer it this is so emotional

I'll join you in your Jimmy crusade as a last hurrah

:(

09:32

Im sad

MIH

Im sad

need waffels?

Im going to cave your skull in

Jimmy and I will cook you your last meal

yes i make broonis

09:36

How DARE you gamecube

09:36

you don't even feel a little sad

️

09:37

That better?

No

09:37

im done with this

I am sad, Jimmy is still alive and will be responsible for killing you without a proper goodbye. It's like we reached the bad ending in a game.

Omg neverming you're totally forgiven

09:39

But i am still sad

09:39

whatever

09:39

im just gonna go cry

I'm like 70% sure you're good so this just makes Jimmy look worse than he already did

09:45

Anyways goodbye MIH it was fun

70% huh

09:46

........

09:47

Well ill just say goodbye now cuz if jimmy or lune come the hammer is gonna happen so

09:47

Goodbye everyone!

Finally

What do you mean finally

10:03

you're litterally lycnhing a town

10:04

oh wait i forgot you think im super evil

Tell them to unvote

@BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic Unvote me please i am planning to hammer myself at the end of the day anyway

10:05

you didn't talk much here but im sure the others wouldn't appreciate losing this day

10:05

just cause jimmy is evil

10:06

@Rawry @Fairy Boots @Meowy can one of you unvote jimmy hammered

Man......

10:09

I'll be here for another hour before I leave, hopefully a hero swoops in and saves you

Really making my last moments great guys

Damn you Jimmy

Closing chat for a sec

10:28

Hammer happened some time ago, we didn't spot that though, sorry.

10:29

Day has officially ended now, consider this twilight for a hot minute until the hosts put their day end message and officially start the night.

----day 3 end/day 4 start----

ForeverBel pinned a message to this channel. 10/11/2021 8:11 PM

Heyo

hoiya

someone explain to me why MIH DECIDED TO LIE ABOUT HIS CHARACTER

Ok people so

20:36

Continued as planned

20:36

?

20:41

Maybe we can even speed run this as pretty much it’s supposedly 5 vanilla , 1 1-shot cop vs 1 gf

BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic

someone explain to me why MIH DECIDED TO LIE ABOUT HIS CHARACTER

Wish I could but I can’t

21:11

MIH is MIH

Hmmm

21:57

I say we kill

21:57

Uhhhhhhhhhhh

21:58

All rhe MIH’s

BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic

All rhe MIH’s

Killing people based on their name is a very bad idea

22:33

We're not going to go around killing someone because of their name when there are more important people to lynch.

22:38

More importantly once again Jimmy hammered, ending the day several hours early

We lost 2 vanilla town that talked a lot yesterday. Not the best outcome

Your just saying that becauee you have MIH in your name

Well 3 more days till lylo no cc on 1 shot cop so GameCube is good

00:12

I think we should get jimmy out

00:14

Anyone that’s been putting thought into this would’ve gone for GameCube and it’s not like some mastermind kind of psych play to kill mrawry instead

00:15

So I think it’s someone not paying attention to the game as much

00:15

Tentatively ruling fairy out

00:16

If sylvie could be less anti town that’d be great, I think sylvies more town

00:18

So let’s hustle

BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic

Your just saying that becauee you have MIH in your name

No I'm saying that because there's no logic behind then suggestion. That's like if I said everyone with y in their name is suspicious. It makes no sense

00:21

Not sure why you're trying to push such an absurd thing but it's not making you look good

BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic

someone explain to me why MIH DECIDED TO LIE ABOUT HIS CHARACTER

As for this, my only guess is that since Angie is sort of a villain at some point in V3, MIH's role could have been either good or bad.

00:27

Could have been interpreted*

Meowy

If sylvie could be less anti town that’d be great, I think sylvies more town

ANYTHING I DO IS JUST SEEN AS SUSPICIOUS SO I GAVE UP

Gamecube

No I'm saying that because there's no logic behind then suggestion. That's like if I said everyone with y in their name is suspicious. It makes no sense

That makes alot of sense

Gamecube

As for this, my only guess is that since Angie is sort of a villain at some point in V3, MIH's role could have been either good or bad.

Wouldnt he WANT to be good then??

I don’t know no one suses you right now

00:32

Mih is just quirky, both characters are town

Pretty sure Fairy said Sylvie was sus as well as MIH. Not sure about anyone else.

Meh jimmy first?

I've wanted to fo that since round one

00:35

I want to see if Zach gets prodded first since I don't trust them much

00:35

Or they already have been prodded so I want to see if they get replaced

00:37

Also I won't vote to avoid a hammer

The prods fine, I don’t know how much useful info we could squeeze out of these peeps though

00:39

Fairy just claim your character

00:40

Same for Zach and kokichi

I doubt we'll get much of anything from Zach, Jimy, or Exorcist

00:41

Which sucks because that's almost half the remaining players

i am here

01:15

and queer

01:15

but that’s a separate topic

01:15

i’m gonta gokuhara

01:15

remember how i said i couldnt rp this character

01:15

yeah

Ok I believe it

01:24

Just add I want to be a gentleman and refer to self as third person

01:25

But who do you think is more likely, jimmy or fairy

Hey everyone

02:39

ok interesting kill

02:39

I have my notes, which I can post now that PRs are outed

02:40

I don't like to do that unless I'm about to die, I keep track of PR/scum susses as sometimes they sound the same, and can be mafia ammo if I give that too early

02:40

My character I outed yesterday

02:41

I am Yasuhiro Hagukare... "you're failing classes pretty badly, however, you do have a useful ultimate talent - your predictions are always 30% correct..." (pretty fucking true lmaooo)

02:41

Ok, now my notes

02:43

DEAD PLAYERS:

Sam (GoldenOne) (Died N1, Goon) yo y u playing so different to last game bish, tummy rumble heebie jeebies | seems opposite alignment to mrawry  |  LOL  |

Fire (SERIAL KILLER, N1) has massive BDE, power tripping, scummy af | LOL | had weird interactions with MIH, kokichi... fishing for roles

zilch (VT WHAT LMAO, D2) wanting town to make bad plays, BDE | claiming to have logical reasons but actually illogical, poor reactions to being sussed, more BDE, on top of everything is voting the vigi claim | WHAT WHAT WHAT | sussed kokichi

musicalfoxes (1 SHOT VIGI, N2) **replied to roll call reaction test, is actively reading** | vigi claim, have to see how this goes... lol zilch is voting for them it's definitely bye bye zilch... | ok :myheadhurts: | apparently I was the only one who saw that claim pfft | had minor susses on zilch + jimmy

MIH (VT, Day 3) noooooooooooooooooo I dunno what's worse, if they're mafia or town | They played like this as town last time. Why would someone try to confuse town if they're town? What's the play here? They can't confuse mafia unless they're PR... are they PR? | NOT PR. Why would someone act sus? Logically they are anti-town so we have to lynch them | I can't even lmaooooo they're actually town, at least I don't have to eat my hat this time.

mrawry... (VT, N3) townie. very different to when they were maf. seems opposite alignment to sam | very likely VT | logical + relaxed | fuck

02:45

ALIVE PT1 (fairy's perspective from LEAST to most sus) -

Fairy Boots (VT) pogggg I might get to live a while this game | votes on me Day 3: gamecube + meowy, got off me when mrawry said to vote MIH

Gamecube (oneshot cop)... I think PR, prolly cop. | BUT WHY AREN'T THEY CLAIMING? SURELY THEY CHECKED? Are they actually fishing instead of softing? Maybe they checked musical instead of me so they're voting me by default? But wouldn't they just say? It would help us figure out the set up... and what reason would they have to even listen to MIH's check suggestions anyway? Maybe they checked MIH? One shot cop? Maybe they didn't check yet? If they don't claim PR by Day 4 I will vote them. I'll have to release all these notes today if I get fucking voted sadge, people didn't pick up on the vigi claim so prolly aren't picking up on the cop softclaims either. YEP ONE SHOT COP BAM. sadge no more checks, checked mrawry N1 (blue)

meowy.... leaning townie because deferring judgement to mrawry. hmmm good middleman candidate - follower, sussing people who were already sussed, bandwagoning, just active enough to stay under the radar. mrawry thinks they're town. last time they were maf I was sus of them very early, is this why they voted me, fear vote? hard null, happy to trust for now. | mrawry is dead + VT, so they go up the list

Anarchist Kokichi... **replied to roll call reaction test, is actively reading** prolly just a VT who hates being VT, sigh | prodded N3... might have to reevaluate this read depending on coming days,

02:46

ALIVE PT2 (fairy's perspective from LEAST to most sus) -

Zach (rimuru)... **replied to roll call reaction test, is actively reading** damn | prodded N3... they would probably play mafia and town exactly the same and just say "damn" and "i dunno" to e v e r y t h i n g

Sylvie... pretty sus **replied to roll call reaction test, is actively reading** | not playing AT ALL like they did when town, they seem kinda miffed and annoyed... like someone whose partner died first night!?!? | they wanted to lynch MIH, I said MIH is too easy a target and people who push them this early are sus, they immediately backed off and went with a "no vote", very late to claim VT and is not PR | cautious, but isn't PR | susssss... possible middleman

Jimmy... SUS **replied to roll call reaction test, is actively reading** | knew sam prevously so sam interactions are NAI, hammered Day 1 no vote, sussed by a lot of fuckng people, almost too many **actually means nothing if there's 0-1 other mafia** | bandwagoning, is actually voting,  so again is here. scummy af, isn't acting very townie but is active enough to vote and admitted to voting whomever was getting voted | sussed hard by MIH... is this just occam's razor? If they're in mylo I think most people would vote them.

02:46

Man that's a lot more than I thought

02:47

I don't usually type them so I guess it was easier to get carried away

02:47

I have to go for a few hours, let me know what I am missing, or things you disagree with

02:48

I agree with the Jimmy vote @Meowy esp after MIH's death

02:48

We can talk more today, or just vote, I've probably said everything I need to

Damn

I wanted to add the "Kill all people with MIH in their name" to sylvie's notes, as one of them is literally the fucking cop

02:49

LMAO damn

you got me lmao

actually I am not voting yet I don't wanna risk hammer before hearing jimmy's defence

Damn

Also @Gamecube my questions for you yesterday were basically just disguised versions of what I wanted to ask in case you were cop who didn’t want to out yet

Yes you did claim, brain getting smaller by the day

03:38

Nice notes

Fairy Boots

ALIVE PT2 (fairy's perspective from LEAST to most sus) -

Zach (rimuru)... **replied to roll call reaction test, is actively reading** damn | prodded N3... they would probably play mafia and town exactly the same and just say "damn" and "i dunno" to e v e r y t h i n g

Sylvie... pretty sus **replied to roll call reaction test, is actively reading** | not playing AT ALL like they did when town, they seem kinda miffed and annoyed... like someone whose partner died first night!?!? | they wanted to lynch MIH, I said MIH is too easy a target and people who push them this early are sus, they immediately backed off and went with a "no vote", very late to claim VT and is not PR | cautious, but isn't PR | susssss... possible middleman

Jimmy... SUS **replied to roll call reaction test, is actively reading** | knew sam prevously so sam interactions are NAI, hammered Day 1 no vote, sussed by a lot of fuckng people, almost too many **actually means nothing if there's 0-1 other mafia** | bandwagoning, is actually voting,  so again is here. scummy af, isn't acting very townie but is active enough to vote and admitted to voting whomever was getting voted | sussed hard by MIH... is this just occam's razor? If they're in mylo I think most people would vote them.

Hey im trying to play But its kinda hard when you have to SCROLL THROUGH 400 MESSAGES IN 3 MINUTES Even better, when I try to do almost anything, I get counted suspicious here! Ive literally given up this game because of that! Ive told yall my role through clever hinting, and people actually guessed right!

08:17

I should be clear

08:17

BUT IM NOOT

Reb

Damn

Damn.

Damn

10:14

Damn I’m being called sus

Damn

I don't really have anything to add today. I just we lynch Jimmy and go from there.

15:17

Oh hello

BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic

Hey im trying to play But its kinda hard when you have to SCROLL THROUGH 400 MESSAGES IN 3 MINUTES Even better, when I try to do almost anything, I get counted suspicious here! Ive literally given up this game because of that! Ive told yall my role through clever hinting, and people actually guessed right!

Sylvie ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ no matter what role you are, never give up! No one is clear apart from the dead people btw. On that note, if you are PR please claim! atm we believe it's 5T (2 PR vigi + cop, 1 SK, 1 GF, 1 goon), PRs have used all their abilities + mafia has more info than we do so late game obscuring your role doesn't help, if you AREN'T VT it changes things. It would really help to have your thoughts/notes on other players (townreads and susses, pairings, etc)

𝕋𝕙𝕖𝔹𝕞𝕚𝕞𝕪

Damn I’m being called sus

Damn

Jimmy, because you're new I'll help. When you're sussed and about to get lynched, regardless of whether you're town or mafia, you need to do a few things... 1. RR (role reveal, you claimed VT so done) 2. Give your notes/thoughts (townreads/susses, pairings, theories, that kinda thing)

Gamecube

I don't really have anything to add today. I just we lynch Jimmy and go from there.

I think so too, but I want some content from him first just in case.

Damn

Yeah might as well get information while we can

Damn.

Say your character

Who?

15:33

me?

Yeah

lemme go see again

15:34

mahiru koizumi

15:34

plain old cit

You want to offer anything at all I go wise?

15:35

Info*

Well i dont exactly have info as a cit so

15:35

¯\(ツ)\/¯

That was already known through

But then why'd you ask

Because you don't talk

because i dont have info lmao

There's plenty to do as vanilla town. The way you're playing is more beneficial to mafia than it is town.

well its not like i can give shit reads if i dont give any reads

15:38

Shit reads are bette than none

15:39

no not really lmao

Yeah they are. It starts discussions, people will disagree with you and tell you why, or some will agree with you.

15:40

You might as well not be playing if you won't do anything

shit reads -> people will sus you out for trying to mislead -> get fucked

Gamecube

You might as well not be playing if you won't do anything

tbh i dont even know why i joined

15:43

¯\(ツ)\/¯

Can't help you there. Just try make the most out of your vanilla town next time.

not much i can do to begin with so

That's wrong look at Mrawry and MIH both were vanilla town

i could also just say completely random things but that wouldnt be fum

15:52

¯\(ツ)\/¯

15:52

fun*

15:52

goddamnit

Just reading and having a decent idea of anyone is enough. Even if you don't think you're good you can still help others.

Yep, agreed with @Gamecube

15:57

@Reb... what do you think mafia is about? What do you think vanilla town usually do?

Fairy Boots

@Reb... what do you think mafia is about? What do you think vanilla town usually do?

You think I f**king know lmao

ngl I wanna vote zach, I just noticed that he hasn't even voted anyone

because i dont know who to vote

15:58

i thought putting 2 and 2 was simple

How do you think people make decisions about who to vote?

It'd usually be based on what you know, like night actions

15:59

but as cit you have shit to work with

No, I am talking about vanilla town. In most games, most people are vanilla town. What do you think they do?

tf is vanilla town

citizen

So same thing then

Yes

Fairy Boots

No, I am talking about vanilla town. In most games, most people are vanilla town. What do you think they do?

Idfk lmao

what!!!

16:01

Dude I have played with you before... can't tell if this is genuine "dumbtelling" or fake dumbtelling

The fuck you mean dumbtelling

Dumbtelling is... when people pretend they don't know something (usually mechanics) but they actually do... sometimes people really don't fucking know

16:02

Which doesn't make sense because you've played so many games dude

and i never did good in any of them

16:02

16:02

whats your point

16:03

i even almost completely gamethrew in a framer game but nashed hard carried

My point is that, if you don't play the game, or even try to play the game, your side is more likely to lose

16:03

If a bunch of people don't try, or give up, then that's why town would lose

16:04

In this game... pretty much EVERYONE is working off the same info. Mafia have the most information, we only had one cop check, and the person they checked was being townread and is already dead. But, even though the cop has no info, they are trying to gamesolve and playing like a good cit

16:05

If you're actually cit, you're what's called a failcit lol

16:05

In mafia you rarely have much concrete information to work with, you make social reads

Well they all suck for me so idk

I'm VT and I figured out who the vigi and the cop were, and had scumreads on the SK and goon

16:07

I presumably have scumreads on the presumably last maf

¯\(ツ)\/¯

16:07

Wouldnt know

@Gamecube @Meowy I'm not kidding we need to vote zach, if he's town mafia are never killing him, if you guys are somehow townreading him let me know

16:09

ALSO this is why we NEVER no vote... we need to get to the end with as many easily read townies as possible

16:10

He's actually a really dangerous mafia, goes under the radar, I'm an idiot and only just noticed THAT HE HASN'T VOTED ANYONE THIS GAME

so just because i dont want to make bad reads im mafia

16:11

16:11

Lord knows what happens when I actually say anything, probably make the entire game after me

Zach, someone who doesn't play the game is a danger to town

I knew he didn't vote. Should have made that more clear.

cool, why should i even bother anymore lmao, breathing makes me maf i guess

Not knowing anything is literally what this game is based on. Our goal is to find information through combined effort.

16:15

If you really aren't falling this I don't think this is a game for you.

16:15

Faking

ZACH... DOING NOTHNG makes you scum! Mafia like to: coast, stay under the radar, and not piss people off by voting out innocents

16:15

https://mafiagg.fandom.com/wiki/Your_Beginner_Guide_to_Playing_the_Game_by_Wangalang

16:16

Agreed with everything gamecube just said

Fairy I don't have a problem with voting Zach I've said before that I didn't trust them, but I feel it's about time Jimmy goes.

I think if players started punishing people for not playing we'd win more games as town and the quality of the games would go up. I dno why but in here people are so worried about being sussed for being wrong that they don't even play!

16:20

I'm ok with that, I think both are pretty much in the same boat

16:20

Zach goes well down the list for me now

You're not wrong but Jimmy has been more of a nuisance compared to Zach

16:22

I'm fine with voting Zach tomorrow, but today I'm not changing

Damn

damn

damn.

@Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi) give this a read: https://mafiagg.fandom.com/wiki/Your_Beginner_Guide_to_Playing_the_Game_by_Wangalang

16:25

Zach did you read it?

i’m not a beginner anymore

16:25

:/

16:25

i’m honestly pretty sure i’ve read that already

I think there are some fundamentals you missed though, seeing you this game and the last one

Fairy Boots

Zach did you read it?

¯\(ツ)\/¯

Great

16:26

It's really hard to play with people who aren't interested in playing

16:26

All the inactives do is make the game easier for mafia, they provide cover for them

16:27

Mafia can literally do nothing and win this game, that's not ok

hmmm x to doubt

16:28

inactives are shit, i must agree

16:28

(haha hypocrite amirite)

Dude, last game, mafia won because they didn't do anything

(wow i am such a fuckin loser holy shit)

The one we were in

Fairy Boots

Dude, last game, mafia won because they didn't do anything

i

16:29

i wasnt finished

16:29

but ok

Go on

Correct me if I'm wrong but we are 7 left here. Assuming there's 2 mafia left, that makes 5 town left. It really shouldn't be just 2 people talking with a few interjections here and there.

but anyway, if inactives are

16:29

inactive enough

16:29

they get prodded, which is usually the host way of replacing out inactive players in favor of active ones

16:30

and active players can provide nice content

16:30

the problem isn’t really inactive players

16:30

inactive players are okay as long as they can actually post content

16:30

the problem is inactive players popping in every few hours (or once a day) to post meaningless fluff and then leave

In my experience here, players who are subbed in mid game get voted out and cause confusion as it's hard to remember who they were before. I think that inactive players should be idled out instead of replaced.

16:31

And I agree exorcist

active players are horrible if they don’t post content

16:32

if you’re popping in every few minutes to post walls and walls of fluff

YEP

you’re not helping

16:32

you’re a detriment

Especially if you can't even get townread from it and confuse town

yeah

16:32

and it clogs things up

Fairy Boots

ZACH... DOING NOTHNG makes you scum! Mafia like to: coast, stay under the radar, and not piss people off by voting out innocents

this is called the “mafia freeze tactic”

16:33

any experienced mafia player will absolutely NOT FREEZE THE THREAD

16:33

it often leads to you getting voted out more often than not

oooh I haven't heard of that

Fairy Boots

oooh I haven't heard of that

eh it’s not really what it’s officially called, i think

16:33

it’s a bit of a colloquial name

16:33

but either way

16:34

maf freezes thread (by practically abandoning it)

I like it, I get what you mean

any good town player notices this

16:34

calls it out

16:34

”why are you freezing the thread”

16:34

a few hours later

16:34

”uhhhhh”

"uhhhhhh"

16:34

omg the "uhhhhhh"s

so mafia players (with experience, anyway) are pretty active

16:34

that’s what i‘ve gathered

16:34

they want to gain towncred

16:35

they dont want to be scumread

16:35

they want to appear as townie as possible without being tttbt

experienced mafia players are hard to read as mafia or town, as they sound town all the time

16:35

so they get fearkilled

Fairy Boots

experienced mafia players are hard to read as mafia or town, as they sound town all the time

not necessarily

Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi)

they want to appear as townie as possible without being tttbt

yep

experienced mafia players tend to also be very strong town players

16:35

so if they appear town all the time

16:35

town doesn’t like risking it

THat's what I mean, they get fearkilled BY town

no

16:36

i mean

16:36

they dont want to lose a potential nuke against scum

16:36

a really strong town player

16:36

some town will fencesit

16:36

others will just townread

16:36

rarely, you get a scumread

16:36

but if an experienced mafia player plays well enough

16:37

the scumreads are dismissed

the mafia's scumreads?

i mean fuck it, one time i appeared so townie as scum that i was literally hardcleared as town by the majority of people

or the town's scumreads on the mafia?

Fairy Boots

or the town's scumreads on the mafia?

this

Do you play anywhere else?

Fairy Boots

Do you play anywhere else?

used to

16:37

town of salem forums

16:37

the fm section got shut down

16:38

mafia motivation kinda drained after that

16:38

if you want, i can link the game where i was scum in dms

hahah yeah that'd be awesome

damn

we still lost, because the one town who scumread me ended up getting a gun

16:39

(it was popcorn mafia)

16:39

or, at least, didn’t fully clear me

16:39

but the entire team was riding on my back, and it felt nice to be townread a whole bunch

16:39

either way, no strategy guide is perfect for everything

16:39

you just gotta try your best at the end of it

16:40

even if your best means mislynching half the town

16:40

also: from experiences, inactives tend to be town with low wim

my first ever mafia game, it was a long form game (12/12), I was godfather and I thought it was a fucking roleplaying game, I started the Neighbourhood Watch and gave everyone jobs in town, and people were like "I can't vote fairy, she's just too funny." My mafia team were two of the best players, been playing for over 10 years, I stayed alive til the end because people just found me entertaining... one of my favourite ever games dogkek

Damn

I used to play werewolf with family. We never claimed role ever, didn't even reveal investigation results. Only realized how weird we were playing until I played a visual novel based on the game.

Damn.

16:49

tbh i think i just started playing ToS making stupid reads but somehow working

16:49

"You used the wrong formula and somehow got the right answer" type of thing

Mafia is a game where you are right for all the wrong reasons XD

¯\(ツ)\/¯

Fairy Boots

Sylvie ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ no matter what role you are, never give up! No one is clear apart from the dead people btw. On that note, if you are PR please claim! atm we believe it's 5T (2 PR vigi + cop, 1 SK, 1 GF, 1 goon), PRs have used all their abilities + mafia has more info than we do so late game obscuring your role doesn't help, if you AREN'T VT it changes things. It would really help to have your thoughts/notes on other players (townreads and susses, pairings, etc)

Kinda hard when many people on the server ACTIVELY TRY TO MURDER YOU

Damn

BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic

Kinda hard when many people on the server ACTIVELY TRY TO MURDER YOU

True

Fairy’s note looks very towny

22:02

By the way what does Tenko have anything to do with leaf

22:02

Zach who is your character

22:04

Also by the way this is kind of outside info and Mrawry ruined it because I told her I’m a girl with name starting with s, so she outed me without claiming

22:04

I’m ~~sayaka~~ ~~Sakura~~ Sonia

Meowy

Zach who is your character

I asked Zach this earlier, he said Mahiru

Ok I read a bit zachs too anti town to keep around. Regardless I say jimmy today Zach tomorrow and the 3 that survive to d5 can argue it out

Yeah that's what I think is best

@Meowy and @Gamecube what are your thoughts on everyone apart from Zach and jimmy? So Kokichi, Sylvie, me, and each other

Fairy Boots

@Meowy and @Gamecube what are your thoughts on everyone apart from Zach and jimmy? So Kokichi, Sylvie, me, and each other

Meowy I suspect the least. They haven't done anything warranting my suspicion, just seems to be a vanilla town. Kokichi I'm leaning towards vanilla town as well. That's more because the other quiet are more suspicious to me. Sylvie has made some weird suggestions especially the kill the MIHs. I'm leaning more towards them being bad suggestions rather than anything malicious. As for you, I trust you somewhat. I want to believe you're good and most of what you have done points to that. I just won't fully trust you simply because the possibility of you being mafia does not bode well for town. Things like the shift to voting Zach, which I agree with mind you, made it seem like you were trying to deflect votes off of Jimmy. Which is why I won't be changing my vote just in case.

I was going to post my opinion on you closer to the end of the day in case I was killed at night because I'm pretty sure everyone trusts you here.

23:09

I won't vote you though, I trust you more than I distrust you. I just won't trust you as much as I did Mrawry or MIH.

Gamecube

I won't vote you though, I trust you more than I distrust you. I just won't trust you as much as I did Mrawry or MIH.

This makes sense, as they are confirmed

And yeah I'm in the same boat with your other reads. And yep, I'mma vote Jimmy now, hopefully it's just ggs

Damn

Damn.

03:01

that is all

Meowy

By the way what does Tenko have anything to do with leaf

God Lemme explain

07:08

Tenko Chabashira.

07:08

She has Leaf (edited)

07:08

On her hair band

07:08

Least Symbolising thing I can think of on her

07:08

So she leaf

._.

Egg

One more vote and the day ends

12:18

I won't vote yet until everyone is okay with it

@Gamecube we need 2 more votes on jimmy to end the day, there are currently 2 votes on jimmy and 1 on meowy

17:17

So I would just vote whomever you are going to vote as the day is almost over

17:17

btw @Caitlin... @Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi) talked today

No?

17:18

I isod them

17:18

Their last post was

17:18

Over 24h ago

17:18

And the prod timer is 24h

Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi)

also: from experiences, inactives tend to be town with low wim

ohhh yeah it was 25hrs lol, ironic last post

I was really trying to make sure no one idled out this game, sucks

17:28

@BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic @Reb @Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi) @Gamecube pls vote, I think the game is dragging on now and I keep forgetting I'm even playing, not gonna get much more out of anyone if people refuse to play, and it could be ggs here

@Time please vote

I was coming back to check anyways

We have time anyway

Counted yours twice

17:51

New face?

17:52

Ah Kokichi is gone

Let me read up on what Jimmy has done/said

17:52

~~also on what kokichi has said~~

To update... we basically have 3 active players (me, @Gamecube and @Meowy), the rest aren't providing meaningful content or gamesolving so we're trying to get reads based off that. We think the set up is 1 vigi (Dead), 1 oneshot cop (gamecube), 1 SK (dead), 1 goon (dead), 1 GF (alive)... meaning that we're prolly going to F3 on Day 6

17:53

Which means that town have 2 kills and mafia have 2 kills before F3

17:54

I read kokichi as town, so did a couple of others

So jimmy hammered day 1 I see

I'm glad Kokichi got prodded but it should have been done alot earlier. Anyways good to have you here Time.

Yeah but @Reb hasn't EVER VOTED

17:58

WHICH IS INFINITELY MORE SUS BUT WHATEVER

17:58

Can't mislynch if i never vote

I’m sorry if it’s supper clear he’s sus I just want to make a choice I’m happy with from skim reading

Alright let’s catch time up on the recent events and fast track this so main game 11 peeps can play :p

Yeah let's just finish this

Time

I’m sorry if it’s supper clear he’s sus I just want to make a choice I’m happy with from skim reading

Yeah that's no problem

I’m part way through jimmy stuff

Everyone's hellbent on voting me the next game cuz im quiet so

He seems pretty clear sus read

You aren't quiet though zach, you literally just aren't playing

18:00

You're here, you're active, but you refuse to paly

We've been suspecting him since day 1

And I don't know why

18:00

Being overly cautious is a hallmark mafia trait

Can't make stupid decisions if i dont make any at all BigBrain

Vanilla Townies aren't scared of voting or annoying people

If mafia aren't active in the main chat, but are in mafia chat can they get replaced?

Zach, not voting is the most stupid decision

18:01

IMAGINE A GAME WHERE TOWN NEVER LYNCHED and instead just let mafia kill whomever they decided

Gamecube

We've been suspecting him since day 1

Yeah I see that with them still being alive it’s either a really long frame or mafia I’ll lean towards mafia tbh

Fairy Boots

IMAGINE A GAME WHERE TOWN NEVER LYNCHED and instead just let mafia kill whomever they decided

But you guys vote

18:01

both smarter and quicker so

18:01

:sip:

18:01

18:01

fml

Ugh

At this point I have 3 susses that are fairly even, but because of the no vote day 1 we miss out on crucial info and deciding texture of players late game

We went over this yesterday Zach if you don't understand what your doing wrong than I won't waste my energy.

Zach you are majorly throwing if you're vanilla town

No edit sucks

yes lol

18:03

*then

18:03

there you go

18:03

XD

18:03

*you're

18:03

there you go

Fairy Boots

The only thing worse than a mafia player who says “reaction tests shouldn’t be a thing” is the mafia player who says “I don’t play when I get cit so it’s really easy to tell when I am PR or mafia”

Testing reactions

I see you have been doing some good things for town

I've been playing sure

18:03

But it's a team game

Not this game lol

It was like this my other games as well

Jimmy doesn’t seem to of attempted to help town either

It's very frustrating, as it gets to the end it should become much more complicated and nuanced and exciting

18:05

Yep, but at least he voted

Time

Jimmy doesn’t seem to of attempted to help town either

Not at all, he claims he doesn't know what's going yet he hammered twice

Technically we've only ever mislynched because the SK killed the mafia

Gamecube

Not at all, he claims he doesn't know what's going yet he hammered twice

true

Damn

I don't understand where people got the idea that if you're town you shouldn't vote in case it's wrong

For what I’ve read he’s definitely sused all game from town, actively against town and hasn’t claimed yet

Huge misunderstanding of the game mechanics

Getting wrong votes is all in the game and sometimes it confirms people too

It isn't sus in itself to mislynch. It's sus to vote without reasons or reads, and it's sus to shitpush people for mislynching. There are so many ways to analyse alignments and pairings from vote analysis... not voting deprives town of half our info

I’m happy enough to vote jimmy from what I’ve seen Let’s get this game won guys Thumbsup

I think Jimmy is a good vote, if it's Jimmy all along and he's been sus all game, and is actually paired with Sam, then we've just dragged this game on needlessly

18:10

good shit

18:10

ggs

18:10

Imagine if we voted Jimmy first day

lol yep

18:11

even if he's town we'd have a much better texture of players rn

That's the biggest argument right there for voting lynch

It appears he did a vote for reasons like well they voted me today too

I mean he's new

18:11

Like there's a decent chance it's just jimmy

18:12

If we don't get it correct today or tomorrow I am absolutely dreading F3

What's F3?

Final 3

Smh

I think there's only one mafia left, unless I misread the wiki

Dont twilightpost

In any case before the day ends, it was nice playing even if I complained a little on inactives

It was an honour gamecube NPCGuideSalute

----day 4 end/day 5 start----

ForeverBel pinned a message to this channel. 10/14/2021 6:18 PM

Well shit ten bricks

Ok I've just skimmed through things again to see if I missed something

21:53

Prolly not, I think I'm at risk for overthinking this

21:57

Logically I want to vote zach but my gut says sylvie, either way I think it's probably just one of them

21:59

If people have more to say or read or have questions then I am happy to take the full time, otherwise honestly I

22:00

would love to finish up the game really soon, there isn't a whole lot happening so it's dragging on

22:01

so imma just go ahead and vote zach and I will be nightskipping tonight, if you're around and don't have more to add or investigate pls vote and nightskip asap so we can get moving

22:04

I hope @Reb and @BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic actually vote today, otherwise it's up to @Meowy and @Time

22:04

also congrats to everyone for making it this far

I have nothing too crazy to add but kokichis replacement did a good job to seem town

22:19

If fairy turns out evil I’ll gladly accept it based on the effort of that note alone

22:19

Zach today sylvie tomorrow yes

22:20

Time. Hammer it if you want

Wait

23:03

Soo

23:03

WHY ARE WE VOTING ME?!

23:04

Meowy dont od this

23:04

Ill vote with you all now

23:04

BUT I TOLD YOU MY ROLE

Oh man this is twilight but

23:08

Sylvies sussiness just exploded off the chart

23:08

Tomorrow then

I ALWAYS DO THIS WHAT DO YOU MEAAAN

23:13

haha look at that, What did I say

23:13

People are out actively trying to murder me. Do you see this ghosts?

Rip gamecube o7

Reb

but as cit you have shit to work with

You have plenty things you can work with

01:31

You appear to of not been that helpful

It’s hammered we could chat on though? Any change in game plan

Since the mods aren't here after hammer hello hello

01:37

I think it's a good vote

01:40

He's just coasted all game, literally hasn't voted once, and even if they're somehow town they're a liability in F3 anyway

01:42

So on balance - where we're looking for mafia but also trying to keep the most townie people alive in case of F3 - it's the best vote

01:43

Sylvie provides a little more content so is easier to get reads on

01:45

oh well

Zach are you mafia? Just tell us now you were hammered

01:45

Actually probably not we shouldn't even be talking

Caitlin

Dont twilightpost

oops

01:46

As in probably don't answer

01:48

I was really hoping we could finish this like 2 hours ago lol

Damn

Damn.

Don't twilight post :>

03:33

Twilight post bad. :>

So it’s 2v1 I assume

…

14:28

Oh god…

14:28

Soo…

14:28

Just 3 here huh…

14:28

Everyone else is dead…

omggggg lets gooo!!!!!!

14:31

yep, we figured there was one left a while ago - 2 PRs (cop, vigi), SK, goon... which leaves godfather

14:31

Ok no one vote right away, let's talk

I believe you all know my role the claim at least

Yeah kokichi claimed VT first

14:32

who is your character again?

Just checking

14:32

Gonta

Man, so this is interesting... we've got one person I've been clearing the whole game, and one person I've had as sus the whole game

14:33

I'm worried about a possible misclear, but since you're a sub I don't have so many questions for you

I’m the sus?

no sylvie is

14:34

Sylvie was sussed by most people on Day 4 I think

14:34

Like the fact that kokichi subbed out... when he would have been godfather who'd been cleared all game? Doesn't make a heap of sense

14:35

Man I hate the replacement format, I legit can't think of any questions for you time

14:35

So I'll just tell you what happened with kokichi I guess

Fairy Boots

Like the fact that kokichi subbed out... when he would have been godfather who'd been cleared all game? Doesn't make a heap of sense

Discussing replacements is angleshootinf and thus illegal

lol ok

14:36

sue me

How much?

Who knows

14:36

Anyway it's impossible to not discuss it

14:37

So literally sue me I am going to keep trying to figure out the game

1 rupee

LOL 1 rupee

14:37

1 rupee every time

You can discuss Kokichi, you can discuss time, but not why Kokichi got replaced. It's not that hard.

Which is like 0.0013 usd

Actually

14:37

No

14:37

If you guys are going to replace, I need to discuss that to solve the game

14:37

So again, sue me, I am going to try and gamesolve

I get what your saying as inactivity can point to some things

I will give you 1 rupee each time I discuss t

Like not willing to help town

If people aren't giving much content there isn't much to go off, and reads like that are always part of the game, same as people who are active at night (which can indicate maf chat) etc

14:39

I was the most sus of all the active players

14:39

Or like "least townie"

Cop trusted you

So makes sense I'm alive still

14:40

Yeah but to be fair, cop was like "I don't trust you as much as the others"

14:40

then proceeded to list off the dead vanilla townies XD

14:40

Like my heart has said Sylvie

14:40

Ok anyway kokichi

14:42

Kokichi was actively reading, replied to every ping (sometimes with annoyance), had one of those "I'm VT and don't care about the game" attitudes which seemed believable and I cleared him really hard hoping maf would kill an inactive but they didn't

Gamecube

I'll join you in your Jimmy crusade as a last hurrah

The irony of this being true

14:43

(I’m looking for the cop result if there was one)

Cop scanned mrawry unfortunately

14:44

Scanned on n1 so it doesn't matter anyway as the only two scans he could've gotten died

14:45

cop was useless from day 2 because only GF left

14:45

Well, not useless, we still had a claim

14:45

Sylvie and kokichi had very similar games

14:45

except at least sylvie voted

14:46

If kokichi hadn't subbed out I'd be more sus

14:46

But the replacement issue makes it more likely he was actually just a failcit

Mafia can still go inactive MafiaCat

14:47

The only person kokichi voted for was meowy on Day 1 it seems

14:47

do you know why kokichi didn't vote? or play?

14:48

I found it interesting that kokichi could be baited so easily into replying/defending

So what’s your read for kokichi more town or more scum

Well most of the game, more town

14:48

Which makes me wonder wtf this texture is

14:48

basically my most town but I dno if I said that or not

And your read for what I’ve said/done

mrawry and kokichi were my most town

14:49

Not much, I think you've come in very neutral

14:49

Tried to fit in, nothing alignment indicative tbh

14:50

But Sylvie feels like a set up... sussed by meowy yesterday then meowy dies overnight, and they bring me and the person I had clear most of the game to the end?

14:50

I mean, meowy was way more town than me and definitely voting sylvie today

Hi

14:50

I heard someone is angleshooting?

have a read

Was I guess

And I will again

14:51

If it helps me solve

14:51

You can't replace people and then be like "oh but you can't mention it" especially when there is no other content to go off

14:51

Getting replaced was the most active thing kokichi did

14:52

Anyway, I guess Sylvie didn't really have great options for kills

14:52

If they are GF

14:52

And maybe it's a wifom

14:52

14:52

What are your reads and thoughts time?

14:52

@BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic ?

Well I’m going to skim but not skim of what both you have said all game

You can discuss the previous player.
But not reason for replacement.

In fact kokichi was force replaced for inactivity.

Yeah if kokichi is mafia I am 100% blaming this

14:54

Like, this game has just been full of inactives

14:55

And on top of that, apparently we can't even discuss perhaps the only significant event that indicates alignments

14:55

I have no questions for Time apart from that, because they're new and haven't played all game

Well I’ve played plenty of mafia

No new to this game

14:56

I know you've played a while

14:56

I disagree so heavily with replacements already, but to never be able to discuss it is just insane

14:56

I have literally nothing else to discuss

14:57

I'll wait til you guys talk a bit and answer any questions, then I am voting

Fairy Boots

do you know why kokichi didn't vote? or play?

Well I can’t answer for the old gonta’s actions or reason

Exactly why replacements shouldn't be a thing lol

So if I was looking at stuff in a situation like this I would look at how they acted while they were in game - it seems they were inactive, claimed vt easy claim can’t be proven and hasn’t really been helping town pretty anti town Only one vote all game Apparently actively reading For some reason you town read these actions Yes I’ve ended up reading myself shhh I have my reason

Wait maybe the mods stepped in because I am clearing kokichi off the replacement

15:04

Which means... it's unfair to the game, so either kokichi is mafia, or sylvie is mafia LOL back to the where we started

15:04

Well, most people were inactive, I think if you want any chance here you have to townread inactives

15:04

Look at all the anti-townies we voted out

15:05

All VT

I’ll say my reason so it’s clear to everyone I want the other town member to consider everything we have Which is why I asked your reads on me and kokichi

Wait you read yourself?

15:05

Like townread yourself?

No no

I'll show you the point where I townread kokichi

I’m saying if I saw those points from someone I would definitely not town read them it would be a scum lean/mafia lean

Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi)

why the fuck did you ping me

read from here

15:07

Man am I glad you're here

Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi)

only noob scum will fall for a reaction test

Actually a few things can be learnt

15:08

It’s not just the person getting voted we are getting reactions from

Ok, so the people that I voted out this game: someone who kept advocating for no votes someone who was intentionally acting like scum someone who kept hammering without giving reasons someone who never voted Now I have to choose between... two more inactives

Time

It’s not just the person getting voted we are getting reactions from

yep exactly

I feel the pain

kokichi I love the new pokemon you evolved into

Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi)

only noob scum will fall for a reaction test

Again I’m showing all the things to consider super defensive for like no reason ?

Dude, kokichi is the character you replaced

It seems super dumb from like an outside pov I know

15:12

Why’s he acted so anti town

15:13

I’ve got to undig the hole I’m in

15:13

Get out the hole?

15:13

Idk

Ok so I cleared kokichi really hard to try and get him killed by mafia over an active townread. It's important to have some inactive townreads in a game like this. There were always better town targets so that's not necessarily indicative of your kokichi's guilt. Again, the fact that kokichi was replaced in this situation (GF who was town cleared) makes me think they were actually more likely just VT who didn't want to play the role

15:13

The thing is, most people were extremely anti town this game

15:14

Kokichi had a horrible yet viable reason - is likely actually just one of those players who hates playing VT

15:14

Unfortunately, because so many players are inactive, mafia can easily hide amongst them

15:15

This is the perfect game for kokichi to hide, however getting replaced makes that theory way less likely

15:16

I thought for a while that maybe they hated being solo mafia

15:16

Like I could literally go around in circles between you two

15:17

@BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic I need your reads on me and Town, all you've done this game is defend yourself so I don't want to hear any more of that

15:17

LOL TIME

What’s your claim?

I guess I opinion slipped

15:17

I'm VT

Vt? Hm

I am Yasuhiro Hagukare... "you're failing classes pretty badly, however, you do have a useful ultimate talent - your predictions are always 30% correct..." (pretty fucking true lmaooo)

15:18

In this set up there are only ever two VTs and one GF left

15:18

All roles were outed days ago, all of us are only ever VT or GF

So we all claim vt ALLAH

ikr lol

I’m really going to have a fun reading time so I can try and get a reasonable vote

15:19

Time reading* I guess

Im here

15:20

Again

have fun, @BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic hope to see you soon heartpink

15:20

YAY

So

Fairy Boots

@BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic I need your reads on me and Town, all you've done this game is defend yourself so I don't want to hear any more of that

First if all

15:20

TIME

Well done on making it to F3 btw, no matter alignment

I need you to trust me

15:20

Its NOT me

15:20

I dont know if its you are Fairy

15:20

But Ive been telling the truth

Ok SYLVIE

Im thinking fairy though

PLEASE

15:20

Give us reads and reasons

I domt have any

15:21

Because again

Convince me to trust you

!!!!!!!!!!!!

You guys Spam Wildly

Sylvie we've been discussing the game

I dont read it because Im not sitting through 400 messages

15:21

But

Well then what is your reason

Ive said all about my role and charactee

And what are your questions

Im thinking you because you’ve been the main Force in all of the matches

You think it's me because I have been gamesolving?

Actually kinda yeah

15:22

Heres my reasoning

15:22

Lemme grab it

So you think it's more townie to be inactive?

Wait

15:23

Its not on this server

15:23

Fuck

15:23

Anyway

On another Mafia server I played with a really good player

15:23

And they basically told me that If they act more Active, and helped out a ton

15:23

They could hide themselves as Villagers

15:23

So

15:23

Its not Good to be Inactive in a Game

15:23

But yiur being TOO active

15:24

And thats my problem

Well yeah they want to look town

Here's the thing about me though Sylvie, if I were mafia I would have hidden amongst the inactives and not stuck my neck out

Again

I wouldn't have bothered writing fake notes

Back to that Game

15:24

We lied the shit out of ourselves

15:24

And stuck our necks out

15:24

So your point is invalid

15:24

Also

What was the texture of the game? Were there lots of inactives?

IF it was me, Why would I be so Crazy?

15:25

Have you seen my messages

15:25

Ive been super suspicious, because I cant stop NOT being suspicious

15:25

Im a Jester Winner for a reason

Why are we discussing/making reasons about what happened in a different game

Time

Why are we discussing/making reasons about what happened in a different game

Because it helps my point

This game is likely a different texture... most people are inactive, it's been a solo godfather game, if I were godfather I wouldn't play like this

15:26

I don't think it does Sylvie, because of the type of vibe and players in here

Wouldnt it be funny if me and Fairy are arguing Innocent wise, but its actually time

Yep

Oh that would be really funny

ok

15:26

Ok

15:26

Can I ask for your characters tho?

15:26

I said mine

15:26

Tenko

But the thing that gets me, is that kokichi was REPLACED and i don't think that would happen as mafia

Gonta

Fairy Boots

But the thing that gets me, is that kokichi was REPLACED and i don't think that would happen as mafia

It can happen lol

15:27

Witches Madia

15:27

I was swapped

15:27

WITH THE SCUM

BUT the mods came in and argued really hard against me mentioning it, which I feel they would do if it placed an unfair advantage somewhere... but all that does is tell me that it's either kokichi or sylvie and brings me back to the beginning

God Damnit i may be out of tile

lol

fairy

15:28

Faiey

15:28

I say

15:28

We Kill time

15:28

ITS NOT ME

Ok I have been claiming my character for a few days, I am Yasuhiro Hagukare... "you're failing classes pretty badly, however, you do have a useful ultimate talent - your predictions are always 30% correct..." (pretty fucking true lmaooo)

AND YOUR TOO SMART FOR IT TO BE YOU

15:28

SO TIME IS LEFT

15:28

PLUS

15:28

IN DANGANRONPA LORE

15:28

HE DID KILL SOMEONE AND FORGET ABOUT IT

Gonta?

REALLY

Yes

15:29

Chapter 4

I don’t think characters would work like that for this reason

Sylvie that's actually sweet info

I SAY WE SHOOT THE BUG LOVER

Keep in mind this is an out of game reason

No I think they gave us characters for a reason

15:30

Who is Yasuhiro Hagukare

15:30

?

Oh hiro he gets frames for a kill I think

15:30

Framed*

We voted MIH because their character was sus and turns out they lied about it

15:30

Lol, biggest twist of the game

15:31

when mih lied about their character as VT for no reason

As Tenko would say Degenerate Male

Damn sylvie remember that first game when you were one of my huge susses all game and you were inno

TES

15:31

THIS WHY IM SAYING

15:32

I AM INNOCENT

15:32

MY VOICE IS TEELING YOU TRUTH

Reminder that lore is not indicitive of alignment.

Its just im overly Dramatic

Ah thank you

15:32

Ok cool lol

ForeverBel

Reminder that lore is not indicitive of alignment.

SOD OF JAMES IMA THINK THAT

any in game reason on why to vote me?

Ok so, let's step back, they are telling us that replacements and lore should be ignored

15:33

I wish kokichi were here because I would have some hard questions

Ok

15:34

Problem

15:34

Im about to go

Ok let's just vote

PLEASE DONT VOTE ME OUT UNTIL I GET BACK

15:34

Oh ok

15:34

FAIRY

Well

I trust you more than Time

15:34

Please

You will lose unfortunately

Dont break my trust

Sylvie hasn’t given any reason

15:35

Just “trust me”

Yeah

15:35

So heres what happen

15:35

If I say

15:35

Fruck you fairy

15:35

Die*

lol it was me ggs ❤️

I did what I could

15:35

Gg

I am glad I got to keep @BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic alive

eef

15:36

full game end and missing flavor will come either tonight or tomorrow

maybe open up this chat for everyone?

15:36

to post game?

Apologies for delays n whatnot

15:36

personal stuff

15:36

Yeah

15:36

I'll open up the chat

ggs @Time and @BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic heartpink

This is why I like to take votes slow

Should be open now

Think about the options we have

Can someone not int he game post here?

YOU CUCK

@New kid | Sam WE WON

FAIRY

15:37

YOU LIED TO ME

LOL I AM SORRY SYLVIE

15:37

❤️

15:37

You had SUCH A GOOD READ AT THE END I WAS SHAKING IN MY FAIRY BOOTS

GOD DAMNIT MY INSTINCTS SAID FUCK YOU BUT MY MIND SAID I LOVE YOU

15:37

WHY

Sylvie you didn’t even give me chance to explain anything

TIME

15:37

THATS YOUR FAULT

DUDE MY HEART WAS MELTING AT THE END

YOU WERE SO SET ON KILLING ME

I wasn’t

YES YOU WERE

I hadn’t said anything about voting

You said you were going for me

15:38

Plus we ran out time

15:38

SO BLAME YOUR NAME

Hehe

15:38

Well I’m glad I brought something to end this game off

hehe

15:39

For future, for some reason I am always fucking godfather

15:39

And I don't lose unless Ward is playing

15:40

@Ward homie I won

oh hi

15:40

congrats fairy

MRAWRY HI ❤️

should’ve voted you out smh

by the way

nobody asked “wait why is mrawry dead”

I now need to start all my apologies

Piece of advice, when she's that agressive and doesn't actually gamesolve vote her off

Something notable that you have in particular to be proud of mrwary

I was dying inside

You were killed over a confirmed town player

Ward

Piece of advice, when she's that agressive and doesn't actually gamesolve vote her off

Hey hi hello hey wassup

SUP MIH

MIH

Hey hi hello hey wassup

Town lost

Bestiee

Sorry MIH

No problem this was funn

yo @ForeverBel @Caitlin @Lunexia on Osu! thnx for hosting, was really smoothly run game

❤️

hehe

15:41

Mostly down to phone and lune xD

Ward

Piece of advice, when she's that agressive and doesn't actually gamesolve vote her off

yeah meowy and I picked up on this lmao… we were like huh fairy is not as nice

If it means anything, I invite you all into my mafia family

15:42

YES

15:42

LOL

15:42

Dude when I am mafia I get way too into character

she has other tells, but that's one of the very obvious ones

15:42

it's how she games solves as mafia

But I do often have aggro town games, difference is I usually solve early

Damn

@Fairy Boots ur welcome for the carry

gg

Thanks for letting me sub in hopefully I was able to give enough content

LOL @New kid | Sam deserves all the glory

15:43

Yeah Time that was actually awesome

BeesWaxCheeseSackedFeesBackedDic

Plus we ran out time

You had two more days to discuss

15:43

?=

>Gets fearkilled for being inactive

15:43

Yeah I was super confused about pushing for some time limit

Lunexia on Osu!

You had two more days to discuss

too little

@Fairy Boots for the love of all things holy please never do notes like that again

15:44

You will give your entire team aneurysms

Also I kinda abused the whole "inactives vs actives" thing, though most of what I said I believe in. People shouldn't be afraid to mislynch! And, the more active townies should give synopses and keep the others informed.

15:44

LOL

I was cringing so hard

Mrawry was like "WHERE ARE FAIRY'S NOTES" and I was like FUCK

You called me scummy when I had 0 content in your notes and im just like Uhhhh

shit???

I ALWAYS have notes

15:44

Sam

15:45

I will refer you to

Fairy Boots

I ALWAYS have notes

Your notes didn’t expect me

I said you were inactive and wanted to fearkill you N1, didn't realise I was talking to you XD

Also too good not to share “I guess you could say I joined at the right time to sub in”

lololol

I’m gonna play MA11 strictly off of Epicmafia Scum 101 Rules without any thought

wait i can still talk here

15:45

huh

15:46

…

Game over

Kokichi

15:46

You lost

15:46

Lol

YEAH game is over!

15:46

Sylvie won

oh

15:46

ok

Sam won*

Sylvie was GF

Damn.

ACCORDING TO ALL KNOWN LAWS OF AVIATION

Free dub

15:46

Damn.

THERE IS NO WAY A BEE SHOULD BE ABLE TO FLY-

Damn.

Fairy stop lyingggg

lol ok ok it was me

15:46

Sam carried tho

Damn. lmao

Sam carried

15:47

praise up

Strawberry Crepe (Kokichi)

wait i can still talk here

You really dug yourself a hole that game

15:47

But gg guys the like 3 phases I played was super fun

Looks like Time was voted. I was thinking Sylvie would vote Fairy

sup gamecube! apologies

Hey

Sylvie was SO CLOSE

15:48

figured it out

15:49

but we both have this thing

All she had to say was "Why is Fairy still alive"

Like I couldn't bear to vote them off at the end

You being alive at that point was the most suspicious thing about you

No one really questioned it

You did really well to not push the votes too early

I went on the offence and said "I was the most sus so it makes sense I am alive"

15:50

TIme even said "cop thought you were town" and I said "no actually they said they weren't ever going to trust me as much as the others" XD

I was thinking I’ve been here before just because someone is talking and scum hunting doesn’t mean they are not scum

tbh it was a coinflip F3

Fairy Boots

TIme even said "cop thought you were town" and I said "no actually they said they weren't ever going to trust me as much as the others" XD

I saw that too lol

I would of voted Sylvie probably the no time we must vote NOW was really sus to me

I really wanted to get to F3 but it was very possible I'd lose

I should have been more aggressive

YEAH you have great gut instincts, that game you and mrawry and meowy and sylvie were onto me

15:52

But second guessed your gut reads

If you have access to the dead chat go read it. I wrote all the reasons I was suspicious there

Hopefully you weren’t pulling your hairs out at me in dead chat

ooooh I will !

Fairy Boots

But second guessed your gut reads

Yup that's exactly right

THANKS GAME

15:52

I don't expect to win the next 20 games

15:52

lol

Where would the dead chat be?

gotta change tact now

15:53

The thing I hate, is that I am always so active and talk so much, so when I am mafia it's hard to bleed town

15:53

Players who ramble less are less vulnerable

15:54

I don't mean inactives, I mean players who say meaningful things in less words

15:54

they blend in more and harder to pin down

15:54

yeah! I'd love to see dead chat

More content = more to be like hold up this doesn’t sound right

Here's mafia chat

https://discord.gg/73TG5vhR

We fine to join now ~~just making sure~~

Game is over so I assume so :

15:55

15:57

cool, ggs all

Yea you can join ofc

Hey @ForeverBel can I see dead chat pls?

ill give you perms now

thanks!

Thanks to all the moderators for hosting! I'm pretty impressed how many games are hosted here.

Time

Yeah I was super confused about pushing for some time limit

I need to get home

16:04

in like

16:04

2 minutes

16:04

So yeah

Gamecube

Thanks to all the moderators for hosting! I'm pretty impressed how many games are hosted here.

we try :)

Oh well good game. Well played.

Will set this to archives when i wake up.

Fairy Boots

BUT the mods came in and argued really hard against me mentioning it, which I feel they would do if it placed an unfair advantage somewhere... but all that does is tell me that it's either kokichi or sylvie and brings me back to the beginning

Angleshooting is never a good thing

19:26

^^

19:26

We went in cause it's against a pretty basic rule in mafia communities

19:26

Maybe not one in yours, but it's one here.:p

Time

This is why I like to take votes slow

Yeah, always do that unless you just want the game to end for some reason.

19:29

tbh the second fairy wrote "let's just vote" .. ^^

19:29

Anyway

19:29

o. o

19:30

I had fun reading back through the last day

19:30

yays

Honestly had some great jailor plays here

smh

@ForeverBel u gonna

19:46

Finish flavor

19:47

O

19:47

Later

19:47

Smh

archiving